Hi,

I've been a Wii owner for the past year and a half, but I'm presently considering buying an Xbox 360 Arcade since the price has been reduced to 149.99$. The Wii has been pretty fun, but I personally prefer the library of action games that are available (and WILL be available) on the 360.

Now, I know theArcade consoleis pretty much the base model of the 360's, but considering it's price, would you say that it's a worthy purchase? Also, is the RRoD considered to be just as big of a problem on the more recently manufactured consoles as it was before?

PS2 gets my vote. In fact, I'd even be so bold as to say that it's probably the greatest console of all time. But that's just me :D

Whenever this subject is brought up, everyone always says that the market would be too saturated. You guys realize that the ONLY generation that has only 3 consoles is the current generation. Every other generation of consoles had multiple consoles released. Take a look: -Atari 2600, Atari 5200, Colecovision, Intellivision, and Vectrex. That's 5. -NES, Atari 7800, Sega Master System, TurboGrafx-16. That's 4 -SNES, Sega Genesis, Sega CD, Sega 32x, Turbografx-CD, Neo-Geo, Atari Jaguar. That's 7. -3DO, Sega Saturn, PS1, N64, Virtual Boy, Neo Geo CD. That's 6. -Sega Dreamcast, PS2, Gamecube, XBox. That's 4. That's not ever counting handhelds or knockoffs. So the argument that a new Sega system would over-saturate the market is really a weak argument. I think all Sega needs to do is make a name for themselves again and build up the brand, then a new console could be possible.Emerald_Warrior

But the thing is, in those generations where there were more than 3 consoles, how many of them actually managed to SURVIVE for more that 2-3 years? Sure, it's not uncommon to see other companies trying to get a share of the pie, but unfortunately it's not a very big share in comparison to the 2-3 other heavy players. Sega wants to avoid putting out another console that would once again fail after a couple of years, which is why the left the console market in the first place.

[QUOTE="Daavpuke"]Sega makes a fair amount of horrible choices, so I don't think it'd be wise, however kickass Genesis might have been.dragonps

Realistically, a merger with a major electronics manufacturer would probably be the only way Sega would actually be able to compete in today's market. Even at that though, I still think that today's console market is already a little too saturated with 3 consoles. A 4th major console would definitely be excessive in my opinion.

How about Sega giving it another shot in the HAND HELD market though? I think it would probably be somewhat easier for them to try their hand at that, where there are currently 2 major competitors, as opposed to the home console market.

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[QUOTE="psychobrew"] And that's fine, but if a company's goal is to go all out they have one choice -- the PC. To say they want to go all out by producing a game for a console is ludacris. Besides, Treyarch has proven the Wii is caple of playing the same games the HD consoles can, with much better controls.psychobrew

You're right, developers are under no obligation, but their excuses are weak. If they don't want to develop a real game for the Wii then just come out and say it (or say nothing at all).

Personally, I'd rather play any first person console game with the Wiimote. I actually don't want to play games like that with dual analog controllers (hence, I don't have another console).

Also, developing for the Wii is much cheaper than developing for the HD consoles. I guess the issue some third parties have is they are afraid the games won't sell unless they have HD console level graphics. While that is somewhat true, Treyarch has proven competent attempts on the Wii do sell.

Why would they do that when there's a market over of 70 million Wii owners that the could potentially make money off of? In the end, money talks to these developers, and if they see that can reap the benefits from such a large market (even if it means putting out half-assed games)then why not?

[QUOTE="psychobrew"][QUOTE="UbiquitousAeon"] Generally there's more money in producing console games than there is PC games. And I really don't blame them because the Wii has last generation hardware. UbiquitousAeon

If that's the case then they honestly should just put a bit more time and effort into making original, Wii exclusive titles. I see these rail shooters and honestly the first thing that comes to mind is that these developers simply sought out cheaper, easier, ways to release exclusive games for the Wii. I can't imagine that it's all that difficult or relatively time consuming to produce rail shooters, meanwhile they're using the name recognition of popular franchises like RE and Deep Space just to grab the attention of gamers. I'm quite sure that many people who bought Umbrella Chronicles did so simply because it was a) a newRE game, and b) it was offering a brand new experience. Upon playing it though, many of them realized that the rail shooter style of gameplay wasn't exactly enough to keep them coming back for more, hence why Darkside Chronicles probably didn't do quite as well.

I'm not saying that rail shooters can't produce an enjoyable experience. At the same time though, is the experience fulfilling enough to merit spending 40-50$? As Wii owners, don't we deserve a bit more effort from these 3rd party developers, rather than just have another rail shooter thrown at us?

I was interested in getting Darkside Chronicles, but most of the reviews say that the shakey cam tends to often make the gameplay somewhat frustrating. Is it that much of a bother?

I already own RE4 on the PS2 (probably my favorite game of all time), so i never really saw any point in purchasing the Wii version. Although, I have heard that the game makes amazing use of the Wii motion controls.

I think for the most part, if you played one, you've played them all. However, Dead Space Extraction is the greatest rail shooter ever created.

UbiquitousAeon

And ironically enough, Extraction was the worst selling of the Wii rail shooters. I have yet to play it, but I heard it's actually a really, really fun game. I for one wasn't willing to pay the ridiculously high launch price, but now it's selling for anywhere between 20-30$, so maybe I'll give it a go.

NHL game for the wii, by EA sports

there you go.

BrunoBRS

Ya...I'm skeptical :P