[QUOTE="Ace6301"][QUOTE="FreddyJeffery"][QUOTE="Ace6301"] But that's wrong. In fact if we care about the original origin gay marriage should be de-facto legal. It wasn't until later that people got a stick up their ass about gays. There has always been some form of resistance to gays. Also the origin of marriage did not involve gays, thus it would make no sense to present that to a person anti-gay as a reason to make it legal. You're right it makes no sense for anti-gay people to use it as a reason because it did involve gays. The origin of marriage did not involve gays, gays were getting marriage early early, but the word did not was not made with THEM IN MIND thus it will always be stupid to use that in defense of gays.
[QUOTE="FreddyJeffery"][QUOTE="thegerg"]Because the market damands the cheap labor. Do you buy products made outside of the US? If so, YOU'RE the reason these jobs are being "exported."thegerg
I usually don't buy exported objects, but there's so many now you can't really blame others for buying exported goods. You can blame them, however, for buying IMPORTED goods. Which is what you're doing when you buy products made outside of the US. You are to blame for that, no one else is to blame for you spending money as you do.How would people outside of us fol educated know what's imported and know where to find un-imported items?
Marriage is an archaic, ancient and silly idea. But in our society it comes with certain (fiscal) privileges. All I'm asking is for is that gay couples get treated the same. If they want certain unhappiness, divorce lawyers and alimony godspeed to them.MrPraline
The idea is to noticed by strangers that you are tied to another person through contract instead of just living with them because then it's not real "love' and such.
[QUOTE="Ace6301"][QUOTE="FreddyJeffery"][QUOTE="Nibroc420"] Show me some hard evidence that the origin of marriage was religious and that it was only between a man and a woman. i didn't say the original origin was religioun I said it was between man and woman. This is not a religious argument. But that's wrong. In fact if we care about the original origin gay marriage should be de-facto legal. It wasn't until later that people got a stick up their ass about gays. There has always been some form of resistance to gays. Also the origin of marriage did not involve gays, thus it would make no sense to present that to a person anti-gay as a reason to make it legal.
Because the market damands the cheap labor. Do you buy products made outside of the US? If so, YOU'RE the reason these jobs are being "exported."thegerg
I usually don't buy exported objects, but there's so many now you can't really blame others for buying exported goods.
[QUOTE="Nibroc420"][QUOTE="FreddyJeffery"][QUOTE="Nibroc420"] Again, do some homework. The origins of the word do not involve gay people, it has nothing to do with how LONG ago they may have had the concept of gay marriage, you need to do research, it's the reason why people usually don't accept gay marriage, it was not meant for it at the start, and as long as that fact is presented there will be endless arguing over who is right. Show me some hard evidence that the origin of marriage was religious and that it was only between a man and a woman. i didn't say the original origin was religioun I said it was between man and woman. This is not a religious argument.
[QUOTE="Nibroc420"][QUOTE="FreddyJeffery"][QUOTE="MrPraline"] rofl, FIRST DIBS ON THE WORD MARRIAGE, GUYS Hey that's how it works. Otherwise why would it be as such a big issue the last few centuries? For the same reason slavery was an issue. Bigots will be bigots. not all people who disagree are bigots, I will admit while the argument against gay marrige is endless nothing, gay marriage in religion makes sense, and not all of those who agree are not bigots.
[QUOTE="Nibroc420"][QUOTE="FreddyJeffery"] However it was not made for gays, it was made for male and female fromthe start, which is why Religion has a vast majority of control over it since they have the same views. Again, do some homework. The origins of the word do not involve gay people, it has nothing to do with how LONG ago they may have had the concept of gay marriage, you need to do research, it's the reason why people usually don't accept gay marriage, it was not meant for it at the start, and as long as that fact is presented there will be endless arguing over who is right.
[QUOTE="MrPraline"][QUOTE="FreddyJeffery"][QUOTE="Nuck81"] You called it Lol cant even give me time to look and respond? Doesn't change the fact that there's obviously an issue or there wouldn't be so much push against gay unions now would there? it's an issue now, heck it may have been the only reason Romney was close to Obama in the popular vote despite being a complete failure imo. Romney was only close because Barry has been a disaster of the highest order. That's not a compliment for Mitt. Hell, the fact he lost that war shows how terrible of a candidate Romney was. A lot of people turned to romney just because obama supported GM, and there were forums with thousands around the internet stating that they were changing their votes. Welcome to America. Also Barry?
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