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#1 Free_Marxet
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[QUOTE="curtdoggLP5"]

[QUOTE="kate_jones"]

are you sure youre not agnostic, I am not shackled by religion, and it sounds like you are not shackled by atheism

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I'm sure I'm not Agnostic. There is no God, and the reason I am not shackled by Atheism, is because there is no shackles.

yet you said you have beliefs, and want to be successfull and happy? what do you believe in, why do you want to be happy?

He wants to be happy because its human nature to be happy, because if happyness was not achievable one would do nothing. Only those who want to be happy breed, its all part of survival (evolution)
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So it seems Atheists want definitive proof of god before they would believe. Yet faith is to believe in what cannot be proven.

Anyway my question to atheists you believe your existence is by chance, that there is no purpose in life, that there is nothing but eternal nothingness when you die. That there is no penalty for suicide. That nothing you do in life has any meaning.

Don't understand why anyone would choose such a depressing state of existence.

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So, if reality is cold and filled with nothingness, I should make up a story for the origins of existence, with eternal bliss at the end? Thats what it seems youre saying. Especially with the words"choice" thrown in
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No empirical evidence.solid_mario
bingo /thread http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjO4duhMRZk ^tht video explains my atheism very well
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[QUOTE="Free_Marxet"][QUOTE="wiistation36000"] I think the colleges should be left private, but I do agree to an extent for the schools. The idea for school vouchers seemed like a no brainer to me, since the gov pays 10,000 (that's a number that was acquired from 20 seconds of googling, so if that's incorrect please correct it) per kid in public schools they could have a chance to go to any good school possible, even private.wiistation36000

college = school. keeping college private keeps information to the selected few. absolutey everyone is entitled by human right to have the best education availible. school vouchers are ok but, they let kids goto religious schools, which i dont support

Well, don't forget freedom of religion. Sure, a lot of private schools may indoctrinate, but that doesn't mean they don't also educate. In fact, I believe private schools score higher on the SATs than public schools do. I know this is true where I am, not sure elsewhere.

you can have freedom of religion all you want, but government cannot help establish religion. the best private schools are the secular ones.
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[QUOTE="wiistation36000"] I mean it would cost too much for the gov.wiistation36000

which is why we need a public takeover of education.

I think the colleges should be left private, but I do agree to an extent for the schools. The idea for school vouchers seemed like a no brainer to me, since the gov pays 10,000 (that's a number that was acquired from 20 seconds of googling, so if that's incorrect please correct it) per kid in public schools they could have a chance to go to any good school possible, even private.

college = school. keeping college private keeps information to the selected few. absolutey everyone is entitled by human right to have the best education availible. school vouchers are ok but, they let kids goto religious schools, which i dont support
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[QUOTE="Free_Marxet"][QUOTE="wiistation36000"]

College* ;)

But making college free would indeed cost WAY too much.

wiistation36000

not true, our college prices are highly inflated due to their priovate status while recieving government funds what we need is a public takeover

I mean it would cost too much for the gov.

which is why we need a public takeover of education.

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[QUOTE="Free_Marxet"]

[QUOTE="trust_nobody"]

:lol:

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whats so funny

Aren't public schools are already federally funded?

through state property taxes, which leaves innercity schools out of needed funding.

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[QUOTE="Communist_Soul"]

They should make university and collage "free" instead of giving children thirty dollars for a report card.

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College* ;)

But making college free would indeed cost WAY too much.

not true, our college prices are highly inflated due to their priovate status while recieving government funds what we need is a public takeover
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[QUOTE="wiistation36000"][QUOTE="Free_Marxet"][QUOTE="wiistation36000"] That's not guaranteed to stop the corruption though.

nothing is, but its a good first step

True, how would you suggest holding the gov accountable?

by implementing more democratic control of where our taxes go.
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#10 Free_Marxet
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They should make university and collage "free" instead of giving children thirty dollars for a report card.

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I agree friend