[QUOTE="GTAV2012"][QUOTE="Kan0nF0dder"]Here's why - Battlefield 1942, and certainly BF2, play way way better in online multiplay than CoD has EVER achieved. It hit it's peak in 2007 with CoD4 - it's been on a decline since then - and CoD4 was just a well balanced and designed, run-and-gun shooter with lots of tight corners to guaruntee some easy kills. It never even came close to being as deep as the oldest Battlefield game, it's always been on a different concept level.Kan0nF0dderOK, look kid. I'm not going to be rude, but here's the deal: Battlefield, is a nobody. What do I mean by nobody? I mean, it plays in the leagues of, say Resistance, Haze and Rage. Nobodies. Call of Duty 4 is the single most influential entertainment property of this generation. That is something entirely different. If you enjoyed the old BF games more than CoD4, fine. But CoD4 still gathered the biggest fanbase, sold the most, inspired the most developers, created a global phenomenon and is nowadays regarded as one of the finest FPS titles in history. No BF game has ever, or will ever top that, kid. Oh man, that whole reply was LOL worthy, I've been gaming now for over 2 decades, I'm no kid. But I guess you are, as my suggestion that CoD is not on the same level really got under your skin, and judging by the tone of response, you didn't deal with it very well. Probably because you know I'm right. Commercial success does not equal quality, at all. And graphics don't equal quality.
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Huh? I'm not who you think I am. MW3 will still be better than BF3.[QUOTE="GTAV2012"][QUOTE="super600"]
It took me less then an hour to figurethat out yesterday.
super600
Then why did you call BF3 boring yesterday when I only know one person who would call the game boring.
Only one person finds the game boring? Oh, you funny. Watch 40 % of the BF3 fanbase switch over to MW3.If sales don't matter, then why do you always go on and on about how CoD is the best gaming series of all time because it sells the best? And by the way, it's nice to see you again, DANGEROUSLIQUID.[QUOTE="AvatarMan96"][QUOTE="GTAV2012"]Stil, the sales don't matter (BF3 won't sell well anyway). The game still flopped in scores, because you guys can't honestly say it wasn't hyped AAA.super600
It took me less then an hour to figurethat out yesterday.
Huh? I'm not who you think I am. MW3 will still be better than BF3.Yes, so in stead of innovating, DICE went back and looked at their previous game, when developing BF3? No wonder it scored a 8.5.[QUOTE="GTAV2012"][QUOTE="wis3boi"] 2142 introduced the 4 class system with lots of options to essentially tailor each one to your style. Recon could take an smg instead of a sniper, for example. Also brought titan mode in. BC2 introduced bullet physics and gravity. BF3 took the best of BF2, 2142, and BC2 and also added in an amazing engine, co-op, suppression (this is pretty big), and a more flexible customization system.argetlam00
Yeah, they took the best features of the previous Battlefields and put them together in Battlefield 3. On top of state of the art animation and graphics and sound technology of course. Thats exactly what anyone ever wanted. Nobody wants your so called grand "innovation" aka "consolization" in battlefield. There were tons of things changed from BF2 to BF3. Countless things. Game is nothing alike outside of its player count and large maps.
The previous BF games never had any especially great features to begin with, so that appears to have been a very bad decision from EA's side.1. Yes. But few people expected BF3 to score 8.5 on the PC. Just give it up, the game isn't as good on PC as you guys hoped it would. 2. Shipped, shipped. I'll wait for the Chart-Track / NPD numbers. BF3 will flop in sales, anyway.[QUOTE="GTAV2012"][QUOTE="argetlam00"]
You know what a score is? Its an arbitrary made up number by a reviewer. I score Battlefield 3 a 1000000000000. My number just as valid. Also, PC has higher standards. Furthermore, your statement that FIFA 12 outsold BF3 at launch are completely unbacked by anything. Proof please. EA themselves said that they shipped the most they ever have at launch and are also getting calls for re-orders. BTW, I'm sure your statement is just as ignorant as your knowledge of BF and CoD because I just looked it up and FIFA has only sold 3.2 million its first WEEK. BF3 has 3 million PRE-ORDERS.
argetlam00
1. I played it. It is as good. Prove to me it isn't. How does an arbitary meaningless number show it isn't?
2. Shiped and getting calls for re-orders. BTW NPD doesn't consider digital sales.
1. If it were, I'm sure it would have outscored CoD on MC at least (one opinion is one opinion). CoD remains King. 2. Yes, NPD actually does.[QUOTE="glez13"]2142 introduced the 4 class system with lots of options to essentially tailor each one to your style. Recon could take an smg instead of a sniper, for example. Also brought titan mode in. BC2 introduced bullet physics and gravity. BF3 took the best of BF2, 2142, and BC2 and also added in an amazing engine, co-op, suppression (this is pretty big), and a more flexible customization system. Yes, so in stead of innovating, DICE went back and looked at their previous game, when developing BF3? No wonder it scored a 8.5.Seriously what this thread needs is a real list of actual improvements that marked each game. I doubt I remember everything of these titles, but in the top of my mind.
Battlefield 1942: Rescuing the Tribes concept legacy.
Vietnam: Introduction of class modifications.
Battlefield 2: Experience system. Squads.
2142: The only good thing was that it was in the future so it experimented with different stuff, but then again all the previous ones had this because all of them were in different time periods and had different tech that was noticeable most of the time. Help here for specific stuff that actually made a difference.
Bad Company: Destruction. The new modes (non conquest) are from this one?
Bad Company 2: The same thing but better tech.
Battlefield 3: Basically a mix of stuff that had already been done in different ones but with better tech.
CoD: Fast paced, you are part of something big, not a lone wolf-Rambo-badass feel. Pimp of MoH:AA.
CoD 2: Introduced health regen.
CoD 3: Forgettable. It had those melee fight event thingies?
CoD 4: Introduced the experience system to this franchise. Perks. Bullet engine. Streaks.
WaW: CoD4 but in WW2 time. Help here for specific stuff that actually made a difference.
MW2: Help here for specific stuff that actually made a difference. For me it's CoD4 all over again.
BLOPS: Help here for specific stuff that actually made a difference. For me it's CoD 4 all over again but in different time frame.
For me both franchises have droppped the ball with their recent titles.
wis3boi
No, FIFA 12 is still the biggest launch (DICE shipped 10 million, but said sell-in numbers were "strong" (lol? Just give us the floppy numbers, nooby stupid Dice)). BF existing before CoD? Your point would be? Yes, it is so superior, it scores 8.5 and below CoD on MC. Allow me to laugh: LOL.[QUOTE="GTAV2012"][QUOTE="argetlam00"]
Didnt BF just have the biggest entertainment launch in EA history? Also Didnt Battlefield exist before Call of Duty? Isn't Battlefield a superior game in every single imaginable way to Call of Duty? Yet nobody cares? You certainly do. You are here now aren't you? Talking about a game you never played?
argetlam00
You know what a score is? Its an arbitrary made up number by a reviewer. I score Battlefield 3 a 1000000000000. My number just as valid. Also, PC has higher standards. Furthermore, your statement that FIFA 12 outsold BF3 at launch are completely unbacked by anything. Proof please. EA themselves said that they shipped the most they ever have at launch and are also getting calls for re-orders. BTW, I'm sure your statement is just as ignorant as your knowledge of BF and CoD because I just looked it up and FIFA has only sold 3.2 million its first WEEK. BF3 has 3 million PRE-ORDERS.
1. Yes. But few people expected BF3 to score 8.5 on the PC. Just give it up, the game isn't as good on PC as you guys hoped it would. 2. Shipped, shipped. I'll wait for the Chart-Track / NPD numbers. BF3 will flop in sales, anyway.[QUOTE="Doolz2024"]Shipped, not sold. Stores can't keep up with the demand...they're being sold No. Dice did not comment on the sell-through number, only said "they were strong". So they know the number, but it's too low so they'll give us the shipped info. Stil, the sales don't matter (BF3 won't sell well anyway). The game still flopped in scores, because you guys can't honestly say it wasn't hyped AAA.[QUOTE="wis3boi"] it's sold well over 10 million copies already, hype and flopping is exclusive to this board. Get out of the system wars world once in a whilewis3boi
Who cares about BF? It's just like Resistance or Rage. They are released, score well but maybe under expectations. Then people forget them a couple of months later.[QUOTE="GTAV2012"][QUOTE="argetlam00"]
ahahhahahaha....WOW. Do you work for activision? Tell me, exactly what to COD4 change? Exactly what was new in CoD4? And when did nobody care about BF? What world you living in?
Blueresident87
Well that's just ignorant. I care about the BF series. I care about it a lot.
I meant from the views of a FPS developer...Who cares about BF? It's just like Resistance or Rage. They are released, score well but maybe under expectations. Then people forget them a couple of months later.[QUOTE="GTAV2012"][QUOTE="argetlam00"]
ahahhahahaha....WOW. Do you work for activision? Tell me, exactly what to COD4 change? Exactly what was new in CoD4? And when did nobody care about BF? What world you living in?
argetlam00
Didnt BF just have the biggest entertainment launch in EA history? Also Didnt Battlefield exist before Call of Duty? Isn't Battlefield a superior game in every single imaginable way to Call of Duty? Yet nobody cares? You certainly do. You are here now aren't you? Talking about a game you never played?
No, FIFA 12 is still the biggest launch (DICE shipped 10 million, but said sell-in numbers were "strong" (lol? Just give us the floppy numbers, nooby stupid Dice)). BF existing before CoD? Your point would be? Yes, it is so superior, it scores 8.5 and below CoD on MC. Allow me to laugh: LOL.
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