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#1 GameArtGuy
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[QUOTE="guyhunter"]
The 360 uses a tri-core PPC970 based RISC processor how does i compare to the x86 CISC based CPUs again?FireFalkon

i don't know but it seems that EA and Ubisoft do, maybe it's because it has a processor,ram,and gpu arranged in the same way a normal PC is, who knows, i don't spend my time studying video game hardware

what i said was based on what i saw in the industry i.e. most, if not all 360 games launch on PC too

 The idea that most 360 games will launch on the PC is because of two factors... the PC is more or less a MS platform, and the architechture is very much alike. (Note XNA)

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#2 GameArtGuy
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[QUOTE="squallff8_fan"]

Yes that may be true, but true fact for sure, is the cell processor is more advanced then the xbox 360, if it wasnt then developers would already know how to work with the ps3 hardware, and when u do build an engine strictly for the ps3, the outcome of it is dead gorgeous for example.

Almost every xbox 360 game we seen so far that has beautiful graphics uses the unreal engine 3 where as for ps3 games just look at what Insomniac has done with RFOM using there own engine with RFOM for a launch game and now look at Ratchet and Clank. Also Motorstorm doesnt even use the unreal engine and look how beautiful that game is. Naughty Dog's Uncharted Drake's FOrtune is right up there with any of the best looking games to date and using there own engine. Heavenly Sword is also amazing and using its own engine. And we all know Final Fantasy 13, MGS4, GT5, and God Of War 3 will all be stunning and set the bar for graphics and all of them aint even using the unreal engine. Reason I bring this up is because look at halo 3, MS is best franchise game, finally bungie doesnt want to rely on unreal engine but look at how the game looks at its beta. Even Uncharte Drake's Fortune in its alpha stage is more impressive then halo 3 graphics wise. This is why I know if devs tap into the ps3 hardware which is more advanced then the xbox 360 hardware, u will get mind blowing games. Yes u may say the xbox 360 gpu is more advance then the rsx, but thats when cell comes into play, and the cell also can be used as a gpu, to help out rsx, which puts the rsx above the xbox 360 gpu. If u havent noticed, even early in the ps3's life, it already has impressive looking games that are on par with the xbox 360 and for a system that has been worked on by devs with a years head start over the ps3, already the ps3 is showing that not long from now when third party devs learn how to work with the ps3 hardware just like the ps3 first and second party devs, they will surpass the xbox 360 sooner or later. I give it about 1 and a half years from now, sony will have games that the xbox 360 would only wish it could handle and display. The game that will set the bar in graphics will be MGS4 for console games, I guarantee that Kojima will not dissapoint. He never has and he is one of the best devs in the world, yes even greater then Cliffy B, "FACT". :)

FireFalkon

not trying to disagree with you but from a multiplat viewpoint the ps3 will always suffer, because devs will always make their games for 360 first and then quickly port then to PC due to the plataforms similar architecture

on the other hand, all ps3 exclusives can be better than 360 exclusives due to ps3's different architcture

 

Youre right, its powerful and does have the upper hand in processing power out of all the systems.  What i was trying to say though is the cell is NOT this super powerful processor like a lot of people on this board seem to think it is.  "The power of the CELL" is just one of the most ignorant statements one here can say as its really just slightly better than the 360 and/or  PC multicore units.  The fact is most people are thinking of the cell as something outrageously powerful that is 2,5, or 10x more powerful than anything else... and its just simply not.  Its a really good, and really efficient, and really cool running processor granted, but its not SkyNet.

 One thing that always comes to mind whenever the idea of "ps3 will just take longer to look better" is the fact that the 360 is aimed towards about 5-5.5 years, and the ps3 (according to Big K) is aimed towards a TEN year life span. Will the CELL upperhand be unlocked before the new 360 comes out with a granted better than the cell processor (MS is now developing it internal) or will it be after?  Its really a good and a bad for both parties.  360 fans will need a new console sooner, but ps3 fans will be running on "outdated" (not by much) hardware.

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#3 GameArtGuy
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wait... this is the PS3 thread right?
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#4 GameArtGuy
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[QUOTE="unkownpain69"]

how does the CELL compare to a normal multi core computer processor?

vip3r666

its about a lot of times faster :)

 Its not really a black and white type of thing.  The cell could be better at processing some information, while normal multi cells could be better and processing others.

Its not the mother of all chips like some people seem to think it is... its really just a new type of processor 

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#5 GameArtGuy
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for some reason im going to say 8.9 - 9.2
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#6 GameArtGuy
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Lucky... my 360 broke 5 days AFTER my warrenty expired. Not that i knew it was expiring...  The guy on the support line told me I was automatically updated to an extra year since I still had a launch 360 (got it day one, died the day the H3 beta came out).  Little did he know.. he was wrong, it was 360s that where manufactured in October or something... mine....somehow....september man. date
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#7 GameArtGuy
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This move on Ubisoft's part just blatantly shows that they are a money hungry organization. Creating a game exclusive to the 360 because MS paid them to do it and the fact that 360 has a larger userbase is clear evidence that they are in it for the money. I know that making money is really important to developers, but this is just a slap in PS3 owners faces. I mean how difficult can it really be to program games for the PS3, I understand that there is a steep learning curve associated with the cell processor but come on, are you guys really that lazy, and it is not like Ubisoft lacks the resources to create games for the PS3 and 360, recently whenever I look at the gaming news all I can see is how Ubisoft has made such a large profit and how they are projecting even larger profits for the future. And the excuse that the PS3 can not do the things that they are doing on the 360 is pure bs. Ubisoft has really dissapointed me since I actually like these games and the fact that all of the past versions were on Playstation and Xbox. So what does this say to loyal fans of the series who bought the games for the Playstation? It says screw you we are going where the money is at!

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Havent they already slapped PS3 owners several times by delaying games that have been out forever on the 360? Thats just stupid to me 

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#8 GameArtGuy
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[QUOTE="khalsa101"]does it matter to anyone that there apparently won't be any splinter cell games on the ps3 after double agent? i was surprised to see that splinter cell conviction would only be on xbox 360 and pc, im quite disappointed because i liked the splinter cell games on my ps2/ps3squallff8_fan

MGS4 will put conviction to shame, "Guaranteed" Anyone who doesnt think so its like comparing ubisoft vs Kojima and we all know who the better dev out of the 2 is. :)

 Kojima is a producer

Ubisoft is a publisher with many in house studios.

Kojimas story lines have never changed

SC focusses on actual stealth, and political events

MGS focusses on "Hide on a wall and hope the AI's 45* angle of site doesnt catch you, or hide under a cubbord

MGS4 wont be out till SC: 6

Honestly... Im gonna go with SC over MGS4... the only thing MGS4 has on splintercell is a bunch of fans you refuse to accept its not a stealth action game in the same sense SC is.  MGS is an action game with some stealth 

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#9 GameArtGuy
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Didnt you know?

Once a game is labeled exclusive to another console, all the people here hate it...

It is "exclusive" to 360 and PC right now...  I think thats kinda dumb though because the ending  of SC:DA

*SPOILER*

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Says "To be continued" if you make all the right choices like not killing Lambert, stopping the cruise ship explosion, and having at least 75% NSA rating i think.   Then agian, maybe that was only on the 360 version, idk 

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#10 GameArtGuy
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Its the camera mode

Its in game