[QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"][QUOTE="gamer-adam1"] because only the best can kill people on the same sidegamer-adam1

...Please tell me this is a joke. I do not even know where to begin if it is not.

That is your argument for it...? I mean really THAT is your argument?

[QUOTE="GrumpyWalrus"]

[QUOTE="Nonstop-Madness"]The Navy Seals have more/better things at there disposal.dramaybaz

Such as?

I admit, I laughed out loud.

[QUOTE="GrumpyWalrus"]

[QUOTE="muscleserge"] Yeah, these guys are a level beyond the seals and the SAS. Those guys are trained to climb walls with no gear, their training makes them do drills in wet cloths in siberia in the cold. It would be great, get some insight into their tactics.RawDeal_basic

Yeah let me tell you, they better be hard core if they are serving in Russias armed forces. http://video.aol.com/video-detail/russian-soldiers-beating-like-dogs/1814729507

Using ancient faulty equipment, horrible pay, and on top of that the hazing you get in basic equates to what you would recieve during a street gang initiation. Not to mention the many military blunders they made we could go into during the Chechen campaign.

The Russian military is a mess.

EDIT: and before anyone goes into "TEH BEATING MAKES THEM TOUGH!!!11!"

"Second Amputee Victim Of Russian Army Hazing Discovere

The case of a second Russian army conscript beaten so badly he needed both legs amputated emerged today."

http://www.rferl.org/content/Article/1065380.html

There is absolutely nothing glorious about such behavior, it is still a very real problem in Russia and the people who practice such acts are criminals.

Yeah no kidding...

Some of the things the Russian Government is doing to try and shape it all up iscommendable but they still have quite a ways to go.

[QUOTE="Nonstop-Madness"][QUOTE="Gh0st_Of_0nyx"]:lol: if your and your friend new "everything" about the US army you would also know the SEALs are apart of the Navy :roll:RawDeal_basic

As a former Army Ranger I find that statement kind of offensive :|

I also wish there would be Rangers in MW2, but hell, I'm just happy we were in COD 2.

Just like most Marines would be offended by being referred to as a "soldier". :P

[QUOTE="GrumpyWalrus"]

[QUOTE="muscleserge"] Yeah, these guys are a level beyond the seals and the SAS. Those guys are trained to climb walls with no gear, their training makes them do drills in wet cloths in siberia in the cold. It would be great, get some insight into their tactics.muscleserge

Yeah let me tell you, they better be hard core if they are serving in Russias armed forces. http://video.aol.com/video-detail/russian-soldiers-beating-like-dogs/1814729507

Using ancient faulty equipment, horrible pay, and on top of that the hazing you get in basic equates to what you would recieve during a street gang initiation. Not to mention the many military blunders they made we could go into during the Chechen campaign.

The Russian military is a mess.

EDIT: and before anyone goes into "TEH BEATING MAKES THEM TOUGH!!!11!"

"Second Amputee Victim Of Russian Army Hazing Discovere

The case of a second Russian army conscript beaten so badly he needed both legs amputated emerged today."

http://www.rferl.org/content/Article/1065380.html

There is absolutely nothing glorious about such behavior, it is still a very real problem in Russia and the people who practice such acts are criminals.

It is getting better but it is still a very real issue. The Russian military is still a joke that would be decimated by Western forces. "President for life Putin" has a long way to go before they are taken seriously again.

As far as Georgia it was amazing they did as well as they did. Despite them having Western training it is not like a country such as Georgia stood any real chance against Russia. Despite its military being in shambles compared to Western standards it is still a force to be reckoned with. Saakashvili was also a shrew of a man who actually expected Western intervention into the conflict. Going from the sources I found on wiki (they all check out) The conflict numbers went something like:

Georgia:
9,000-16,000 Georgian soldiers
Unknown number of Georgian Police deployed in the conflict zone

Russia:
11,000 - Russian Soldiers
3,000 regulars and 15,000 reservists - South Ossetia
Potential of 45,000 -Abkhazia

Yeah... The fact 64 Russians were killed and 200+ wounded still surprise me.

sources are: 16,17,18,19,20,21,22

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_South_Ossetia_war#cite_note-defensebrief-15

The Navy Seals have more/better things at there disposal.Nonstop-Madness

Such as?

Let us start off with something simple, do you know the stated function of the Navy Seals and SAS?

I recomend once again you read up on the War in Afghanistan and the role the Australian/British/New Zeland SAS has played there. They have been very active over the years in that theatre.

[QUOTE="bethwo"]

Who cares about the SEALS or SAS!? Unless I get to play as a bad ass Russian Spetznaz member, I will be severly let down.

muscleserge

Yeah let me tell you, they better be hard core if they are serving in Russias armed forces. http://video.aol.com/video-detail/russian-soldiers-beating-like-dogs/1814729507

Using ancient faulty equipment, horrible pay, and on top of that the hazing you get in basic equates to what you would recieve during a street gang initiation. Not to mention the many military blunders they made we could go into during the Chechen campaign.

The Russian military is a mess.

EDIT: and before anyone goes into "TEH BEATING MAKES THEM TOUGH!!!11!"

"Second Amputee Victim Of Russian Army Hazing Discovere

The case of a second Russian army conscript beaten so badly he needed both legs amputated emerged today."

http://www.rferl.org/content/Article/1065380.html

There is absolutely nothing glorious about such behavior, it is still a very real problem in Russia and the people who practice such acts are criminals.

Navy Seals >>>>>>>>> SAS. Nonstop-Madness

And? Please do back up the statement.

I am American and have nothing but the utmost respect for all the branches in my nations armed forced (I am currently in the DEP for the Marine Corps). But Above comments such as yours are oh so tiring.

But in all fairness I will give you a chance to explain yourself, do tell me why the Navy Seals are "better" than the Special Air Service when it comes to unconventional warfare.

I expect a thoroughanalysis of the groups stated mission, training,tactics,operational history,recent conflict,etc.

In response I will prepare a rebuttal for what ever you come up with provided you can actually do it. Going by what you posted earlier in this thread and the mistakes you made that anyone with a basic knowledge of United States Military operations could see through, I will not hold my breath.

but they have some of the best trained infantries in the world, even better than the US.hiphops_savior

:lol:

No.