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#1 HFkami
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[QUOTE="KeithFerns"]

[QUOTE="Linkbest23"]

VALVE NEVER EVER UPDATED TF2 FOR THE 360

they were like oh yeah updates for that

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If you are going to play like that blizzard never updated Starcraft 64

Because the N64 didn't have the facilities available to update games. The Xbox 360 does. Not a fair comparison ;p

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#2 HFkami
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[QUOTE="HFkami"]

[QUOTE="BrickMcStick"]

He isn't wrong, Valve is still supporting some games for over 7 years so it isn't like they hit 7 years and stop support, they continue that is just how much they have clocked in right now. And they have 9 years of support for CS1.6, it's last patch was 2009. Blizzard and Valve both have very good support but Valve does do more, 144 achievements in CSS, almost 300 TF2 achievements (post launch ones I mean), new weapons for every character type in TF2 and a lot more. Not putting down Blizzard, I love them and their RTS games but I am saying Valve does do more. In this case you are wrong, he IS right. Valve continues over 7 years and Blizzard continues over 8 years, Valve has just done a lot more in those years.

Still I really don't want this to sound like a VALVE IS BETTAH THAn BLIzzARD, because that isn't the point of this at all, and as I said I play both of they're games quite a bit.

BrickMcStick

counterstrike isnt made from valve. Also valve makes shooters for the most part. There werent something important like balance patches just pointless updates for steam, and bug fixes. Plus these games are shooters, the players have to host their own servers. Every Blizzard game has still access to bnettoday, even diablo1 and warcraft 2. And valve doesnt support their game as esport titles. Blizzard hosts tournaments for starcraft, warcraft 3 and wow with pricemoney of at least 10.000$ each in blizzcon every year.

You are wrong, period. Simply put, you are wrong. Counter Strike IS MADE BY VALVE. It was originally a mod but Valve liked it so much that they hired the mod team making it and made than released it as a retail game, that is fact, they also made CSS which just got a major patch and is still getting support to this day. FPS games are supposed to have dedicated servers, match making is known as the devil of PC gaming for FPS games and dedicated servers are always a better system and one of the standards of PC gaming for FPS games, that is a fact.

You are horribly misguided, look at Team Fortress 2. That has recieved more free content, like weapons, maps, achievements and BALANCE PATCHES than any other game I have ever played in my life and they have a second round of weapons planned for 5 of the character types, that is fact. What you said isn't true, that is fact. Umm people can still play old Valve games online too, fact. It is true that Valve doesn't hold big tournament for their games but CS games are some of the most competitive PC games (possibly the most) ever created and they have constant tournament.

Please stop trying to argue this, you are wrong. You don't know enough about the topic and are just spitting out info like you know what you are talking about, what I have said here is based on fact. Sorry but you don't have a clue about all Valve has done for their games, especially TF2 which has gotten more love from Valve than all Blizzard games combined in terms of free content.

EDIT: Why can you not accept that there are companies that are as supportive, arguably more, than Blizzard? I'm not insulting them I am just saying they aren't the only people that support stuff.

no youre wrong those are mods period. And you cant compare tf with good rts classics like wc3 or sc. These are serious games which bring to some people even money and are played in big tournaments, tf isnt even played in wcg

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#3 HFkami
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[QUOTE="HFkami"]

Bob McNaughton from blizzard talked about the support of blizzard games & the id thing.New WC3 balance patch woot. Blizzard is the only company that keeps updating their games after over 8 years not like others.

Resistance_Kid

Uhhh... Wrong.

Valve has been updating every one of their games for the last decade+

no those are only steam updates

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[QUOTE="HFkami"]

[QUOTE="scoobiesnackarf"] Wrong. Valve continues to update all of their games some of which are going on 7 years. BrickMcStick

you wrong

they are only 7 years but wc3 is 8 years and sc is 14 years old. You see valve only supports their games 7 years but as i mentioned blizz supports over 8 years. Big difference there.

He isn't wrong, Valve is still supporting some games for over 7 years so it isn't like they hit 7 years and stop support, they continue that is just how much they have clocked in right now. And they have 9 years of support for CS1.6, it's last patch was 2009. Blizzard and Valve both have very good support but Valve does do more, 144 achievements in CSS, almost 300 TF2 achievements (post launch ones I mean), new weapons for every character type in TF2 and a lot more. Not putting down Blizzard, I love them and their RTS games but I am saying Valve does do more. In this case you are wrong, he IS right. Valve continues over 7 years and Blizzard continues over 8 years, Valve has just done a lot more in those years.

Still I really don't want this to sound like a VALVE IS BETTAH THAn BLIzzARD, because that isn't the point of this at all, and as I said I play both of they're games quite a bit.

counterstrike isnt made from valve. Also valve makes shooters for the most part. There werent something important like balance patches just pointless updates for steam, and bug fixes. Plus these games are shooters, the players have to host their own servers. Every Blizzard game has still access to bnettoday, even diablo1 and warcraft 2. And valve doesnt support their game as esport titles. Blizzard hosts tournaments for starcraft, warcraft 3 and wow with pricemoney of at least 10.000$ each in blizzcon every year.

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#5 HFkami
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[QUOTE="HFkami"]

Bob McNaughton from blizzard talked about the support of blizzard games & the id thing.New WC3 balance patch woot. Blizzard is the only company that keeps updating their games after over 8 years not like others.

scoobiesnackarf

Wrong. Valve continues to update all of their games some of which are going on 7 years.

you wrong

they are only 7 years but wc3 is 8 years and sc is 14 years old. You see valve only supports their games 7 years but as i mentioned blizz supports over 8 years. Big difference there.

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Bob McNaughton from blizzard talked about the support of blizzard games & the id thing.New WC3 balance patch woot. Blizzard is the only company that keeps updating their games after over 8 years not like others.

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#7 HFkami
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i prefer lost planet

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#8 HFkami
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yeah its about sales and its a PC game.

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#9 HFkami
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that does not count for 3d fighter tekken, doa, vf and sc are the only who left out from the 3d fighting boom on the psx

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#10 HFkami
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Where's the monitor? Also a Rosewell powersupply? Big set up there... :roll:. You also can't rely on combo deals to always be there. You're also assuming a dual core CPU is going to last a few years.

Awesome, the 5670 can outperform the 4770! I guess I can max out Crysis with that! Seriously, those numbers are junk. The 5770 isn't even listed on that benchmark because it would blow away all of those cards. See for yourself how weak that GPU is.

There is NO PC you can put up for under 1 grand that can actually handle the modern games at a decent framerate and last for 6 months without and upgrade. Either the PC has skimped, off brand parts that are extremely unreliable, or the parts are very low end not offering the performance you need to beable to handle the basics.

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lol its sure better than a gtx7800 or a HD2400/1800 which are in the consoles right now.