I would have loved Doom 3 if it wasn't for thetele-portingenemies. A game spawning enemies behind you constantly like that is just completely cheap. I have notolerancefor lazy level design like that. I hate spawning enemies all together. Every bad guy should have to actually be somewhere as opposed them them just constantly spawning all around you as you move threw the level.

I mean why introduce the awesome mechanic of them busting out from behind things if you are just going to cheap out and have them teleport in because you got lazy. it's a reallyartificialway of making a game harder. Not cool at all.

bradleybradley

good point there: "why introduce the awesome mechanic of them busting out from behind things if you are just going to cheap out and have them teleport in" it happens to much, while u are focusing on doing something else (killing other monster, operating a console, etc..) something jumps you from nowhere, nothing broke, he came out of nowhere, no portal, no sound..

game similar to mass effect would be awesome, i saw some people here keep talking about kotor, gonna check it out. question tho: should i check the 1st or the 2nd one? and if anyone here can recommend more space adventure/rpg games, even space sims like freelancer would be great, thanks.

[QUOTE="HIMSteveO"]

I really enjoyed Doom 3 (even though I'm still yet to finish it - I'm slowly getting through it). It's good fun, looks great, and runs well. The only thing that annoys me is the lack of checkpoints/save spots, because I'm always going along nicely until I die and have to replay 10 minutes worth of game. That's pretty much my only complaint about it. It is pretty simple (it's a 'modern' re-imagination of the first game remember), but the PDA element gives it a bit of depth to it, and the 'magically materializing' monsters is kind of explained by thinking of it as the monsters entering through the gateways on Mars into the base. I also like the flashlight mechanic, it gives those dark sections a bit of drama and makes the more intense.

I will, one of these days, finish this game (I've just walked through the portal into hell), but I also have so many games (especially on Steam) to finish for the first time, and more that I'm trying to play through for a second time.

36O

Lol I absolutely loved Doom 3 however, I have never beat it. And for a good reason lol.

I was a good length into the game, and I had just gotten out of a certain area sector. So I took a elevator to exit it, but I was low on health, and right when I exited the elevator I see a health pack in a closet like incave. Well, I didn't take a second to think about it when I was already in the closet. The next moment, I pick up that health pack, and I feel very safe and secure now, and RIGHT then and there, the closet closes, locking me in and the whole screen goes pitch black. Soon after, I hear that evil devil laugh, and a demon spawns IN the closet and attacks me. I was so scared and shocked I simply paused the game, stood up, turned the computer off manually and walked out of the room lol.

lol :D

[QUOTE="df853"]

• separate flashlight (not attached to gun)

fatshodan

Am I the only person who thought this was a good idea? From a rational perspective, sure, it's stupid and doesn't make sense - but can anyone name me just one game that doesn't make irrational consessions in the name of gameplay?

Doom 3 is (meant to be) a horror game, and central to that horror is a sense of vulnerability. The whole self-preservation thing, when we feel vulnerable, we feel afraid. Doom 3 is built around this concept - either you can see or you can shoot, meaning you always have a great vulnerability, keeping this constantly tense.

It may not work quite as well as it was supposed to, but I blame the implementation rather than the gameplay mechanic itself. I think the see-or-shoot device is a smart one, and I think using torch mods trivialises the game and undermines the core concepts.

I'm not defending Doom 3 or anything - I think there are games out there that do everything Doom 3 does much better, but I think it's a little unfair to criticise the light thing.

i think we can criticise the light issue among other things after all, there seem to be a consensus about it and it make sense - a game shouldnt annoy its player :)

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[QUOTE="HIMSteveO"]The only thing that annoys me is the lack of checkpoints/save spots, because I'm always going along nicely until I die and have to replay 10 minutes worth of game. That's pretty much my only complaint about it.NoAssKicker47

Why don't you quicksave?

lol. seriously. i didn't even realize that doom 3 had checkpoints.

there are certain points which are not a beginning of a level where the game autosave, very few tho

I'm actually thinking of replaying Doom 3 and then getting the expansion. I heard it's much better than the original. artur79

i got the expansion, gonna play it when i finish the original but i bet it wont be that different on the gameplay aspect

Just like you said - I think Doom 3 is a decent game that has a crapload of wasted potential. The problem with the game is that you can see where the developers felt really inspired, like the beginning of level 8 I think, where you have a little spider bot and navigate a bunch of corridors painted a dim red by emergency lights. This part is pretty intense and makes great use of Doom 3's shadows. But this is a rare occasion in a game that lives off of repetitive, monotonous, point-and-click shooting action. All enemies behave the same, aren't very scary and once they start teleporting into the environment the game loses its cinematic nature, which was enhanced by enemies breaking out of vents, staircases, the ceiling and all that.

If id could have made the entire game as exciting as its first three-four levels, it would have been a really awesome game and a true classic. As it stands, it's just a pile of stretched-out, waster potential.

NoAssKicker47

i agree, the part with the little spider is indeed amazing. i think more variety in this game would have make it better