Art design > tech.

penumbra13

Games can't have no art design...

[QUOTE="Hexagon_777"]

[QUOTE="ZIMdoom"]Don't worry, I did some actual research. I went back and read the original post, the articles quoted in the original post, as well as visited the PC Gamers Alliance website to read their full, edited news release. I now know where the "PC outsold the PS3 and 360 combined" comment came from....

...it came from the original post and the Hermits not understanding that the PC number is worldwide while the PS3/360 number only counts NA.

Case closed. Thanks for trying everyone. I think I have proven my pointand no longer feel the need to debate with people who clearly have no idea what the original article says or means.

0111000001110111011011100110010101100100ZIMdoom

Is that really the case? It sounds unlikely that anybody would be foolish enough to compare worldwide PC numbers against North American console numbers for it would immediately discredit the news as well as its source.

This thread is now, what? 11 pages? And the number of PC fans who actually understood the very data they were praising and using to bash consoles (and console fans) can be counted on one hand.

And the number of console fans who weren't acting like total pricks can also be counted on one hand. Looks like we're even.

[QUOTE="Hanass"]

[QUOTE="ZIMdoom"]

Wow.

Is it really the case? Lol. Well, considering YOU were one of the people making the claim and refusing to show where you got the info...yes, it absolutely IS the case. Yes, people were foolish enough to compare worldwide PC numbers against North American console numbers. You should know because you did it yourself. However, it has nothing to do with the news story or the source...just PC fanboys not being able to read or understand the same data they are using to pat PCs on the back.

This thread is now, what? 11 pages? And the number of PC fans who actually understood the very data they were praising and using to bash consoles (and console fans) can be counted on one hand.

shakmaster13

This thread was made simply to prove that PC gaming wasn't dead, not that it was more popular than consoles/

Which it is regardless.

Which you shouldn't be caring about anyways. Just because fanboys bash your system because of sales doesn't mean you have to lower yourself to their level.

[QUOTE="Hexagon_777"]

[QUOTE="ZIMdoom"]Don't worry, I did some actual research. I went back and read the original post, the articles quoted in the original post, as well as visited the PC Gamers Alliance website to read their full, edited news release. I now know where the "PC outsold the PS3 and 360 combined" comment came from....

...it came from the original post and the Hermits not understanding that the PC number is worldwide while the PS3/360 number only counts NA.

Case closed. Thanks for trying everyone. I think I have proven my pointand no longer feel the need to debate with people who clearly have no idea what the original article says or means.

0111000001110111011011100110010101100100ZIMdoom

Is that really the case? It sounds unlikely that anybody would be foolish enough to compare worldwide PC numbers against North American console numbers for it would immediately discredit the news as well as its source.

Wow.

Is it really the case? Lol. Well, considering YOU were one of the people making the claim and refusing to show where you got the info...yes, it absolutely IS the case. Yes, people were foolish enough to compare worldwide PC numbers against North American console numbers. You should know because you did it yourself. However, it has nothing to do with the news story or the source...just PC fanboys not being able to read or understand the same data they are using to pat PCs on the back.

This thread is now, what? 11 pages? And the number of PC fans who actually understood the very data they were praising and using to bash consoles (and console fans) can be counted on one hand.

This thread was made simply to prove that PC gaming wasn't dead, not that it was more popular than consoles/

[QUOTE="Hanass"]

[QUOTE="XenogearsMaster"] OK... I have an argument. You clearly don't have an argument... Who wins here?XenogearsMaster

Demanding negative proof is one the oldest fallacies in the playbook. Try harder next time. YOU have to prove your claim, I don't need to prove that your wild guesses you pulled from whatever obscure place are wrong.

So I ask you again: can you show me a money tree in your backyard? I want photographic proof, otherwise I will not believe that you are God and that everything you say is true because you said it. Bare assertion fallacy, that's another classic. Man, you're on a roll with the logical errors.

"Sign"? WTF does that mean?

"what so ever"? It's "whatsoever".

"consistently going off-topic"? It's "consistently GO off-topic".

Anyways, you still haven't answered a single one of my questions, but yet you have the balls to accuse me of going off-topic? How is proving your "arguments" wrong because they are riddled with fallacious reasoning off-topic? How about you try to address my issues instead of insulting me. But I guess fallacies is all you're capable of since you're moving on to personal attacks, seeing that you failed your demanding negative proof and bare assertion. What's next?

But I bet you're going to elude this post as well, just like you did with every other post that proves you wrong, and insult me again, or use more fallacies.

[QUOTE="shakmaster13"]

[QUOTE="XenogearsMaster"] Make an argument first then you can inpute your BS.XenogearsMaster

First of all, it's input.

Second of all, try harder. You can't really say someone doesn't have an argument, pull a straw man, and then afterwards try to evade an answer to their question.

Trolls these days just aren't the same :(

Whatever happened to using logic (although at times circular) to **** with people's minds over the internet?

When someone thinks that pulling numbers from their arses is called "logic", then you know that that person can't be helped anymore.

[QUOTE="Hanass"]

[QUOTE="XenogearsMaster"] If I can make a guess, I would say that micro-transactions and online advertising is 20%, 30 to 35% for MMORPGs (WoW, RuneScape, etc...), retail sales are in fact 20% and that leaves DD at 25% to 30%.

So basically, the real software sales(Retail and DD) count for50 to 55% which is $6.5 billion or more which is divided by 3 (NA, Europe, Asia) $2.2 billion dollar for each territory, which is a small percentage compared to consoles.

LOL @ thePC gamers boasting.

XenogearsMaster

So your wild guess can disprove statistics? Damn, I wish I had God powers like you did. Can you grow a money tree too?

And I've always wondered why console fanboys have so much contempt towards MMO's. It's not "teh hardcorez" enough for you guys? Or are you just too cool to play WOW?

Demanding negative proof is one the oldest fallacies in the playbook. Try harder next time. YOU have to prove your claim, I don't need to prove that your wild guesses you pulled from whatever obscure place are wrong.

So I ask you again: can you show me a money tree in your backyard? I want photographic proof, otherwise I will not believe that you are God and that everything you say is true because you said it. Bare assertion fallacy, that's another classic. Man, you're on a roll with the logical errors.

[QUOTE="ChiChiMonKilla"]

[QUOTE="ThatGuyFromB4"]I didn't even read the OP. Don't need to to know how irrelevant PC gaming is. You guys are just in denail at this point. Don't want to admit to yourselves you wasted all that cash on hardware for a dying and irrelevant platform.

shakmaster13

The dying and irrelevant platform makes more game sales than the ps3 and 360 combined. So what does that make consoles if they have been outsold by a dead platform ???

Keep the damage control going it makes me smile.

It makes me smile as well.

To pretty much sum up the thread so far, pc gamers are all

and the blind consolites are all

Because of this, they feel the need to damage control. Why do they get so hurt over this?

Maybe if fanboys spent more time playing games, then they wouldn't feel the need to bring down other platforms. Nah, that's a crazy idea. It's much better to pretend to be superior to others.

[QUOTE="Hanass"]

[QUOTE="ThatGuyFromB4"]I didn't even read the OP. Don't need to to know how irrelevant PC gaming is. You guys are just in denail at this point. Don't want to admit to yourselves you wasted all that cash on hardware for a dying and irrelevant platform.

ThatGuyFromB4

Ah, good ol' elitism.

Yeah, I wonder why PC gamers are the elitist ones here. All I hear is console elitism. Feels like hypocrisy. No wait, it IS hypocrisy!

[QUOTE="Arach666"][QUOTE="ThatGuyFromB4"]Are you serious? Yeah, guy, 2 minutes out of my life, whatever will I do? PC gaming is IRRELEVANT. No one cares. Get it thru your heads.

ThatGuyFromB4

Ah, good ol' elitism.