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Now while you may argue that there's no evidence that the ancient Egyptians allowed for homosexual marriages, we do know that their marriages were not religious matters. If marriages are wholly civil matters, left in the hands of the government, then that government is the only authority that can say whether or not homosexuals can marry. Not any religion, no matter how deluded they are in thinking they are under attack.
Our government is run by it's citizens, it's public. Therefore, we - the people - are the only ones that should be defining who can and can not marry. Why we've allowed this religious farce to keep a stranglehold on what is purely a non-religious matter is beyond me. Especially when considering the fact that, as a nation, we've been fighting for human rights, equality, and freedom for over a century.
[QUOTE="HardQuor"]Oh this should tickle some of you pink. I met her through a mutual friend of ours in a furry channel on irc. she lived in in illinois, i was in texas. We've been living together for what will be 3 years soon.luamhtrad
I don't think too many people understand the subculture. What's your creature of choice?
Heh, i went through a lot of transitions, but i ended up on Panda. Unfortunately for the culture and community, once me and mine got together, she and i both pretty much dropped out of it.[QUOTE="HardQuor"]Wow. I don't agree with you at all. I guess I'll break down your post on a show by show basis, in order of their appearance.Dude works for the discovery channel. I think maybe you missed my first post.
If there's one thing i've concluded from your rant, is that you have no ability to separate entertainment and education. Up until very recently, The Discovery Channel has been extremely good at picking out the shows that were able to successfully entertain and educate, and just about all of these shows are good examples of that ability.NearTheEnd
As a longtime Discovery channel fan, I cant feel but agree with you in disappointment, Geezer. Although I couldn't help but watch in shock and amaze, i too instantly saw parallels with this show and Fox's When (insert noun)'s Attack/Go bad/whatever clip shows.
Funny thing is, i noticed more sleaze when i saw the premiere of that Time Warp show. If you've seen it, you can tell it's just a bunch of jerk offs with a high-speed camera, filming whatever they think might be cool. There's no educational benefit in watching half of these segments. I started to think to myself "what's going on here?" Discovery Channel used to be one of the highest quality and most respectable networks out there...
I'm starting to even see the sleazy qualities in shows i didn't mind. Take Man vs. Wild, for instance. Now I see that a huge part of the appeal is that Bear is constantly eating the most disgusting things, and Discovery loves to advertise that, just like fear factor and survivor. The same can be said about Dirty Jobs, but at least Dirty Jobs and Man vs. Wild have at least some educational merit.HardQuor
Wow. I don't agree with you at all. I guess I'll break down your post on a show by show basis, in order of their appearance.I'd like to see them getting back into some more good old school style documentary style shows. I don't have much problem with the occasional silly fluff show like Dirty Jobs or Mythbusters. My problem is when one of those shows gets succesful and then they try to fill their entire schedule with that kind of ****. Sort of like how they now show Dirty Jobs and Deadliest Catch reruns ALL THE TIME. Seriously, turn on The Discovery Channel at any random moment, and there's a fairly good chance that you'll see a rerun of Deadliest Catch or Dirty Jobs.
Or like 10 years ago when Junkyard Wars was on the Discovery Channel. Yes, I admit that I occasionally watched a show about people building stupid **** out of garbage. But it was a dumbass show. I liked watching Junkyard Wars and then seeing some REAL educational programming following it. I didn't want to watch Junkyard Wars and then follow that with another show that copied Junkyard Wars' premise, and then follow that up with ANOTHER show that followed up on Junkyard Wars' premise. Enough already.
And then we had American Chopper and all the clone shows that appeared soon after that.
I'd really like to see Discovery Channel just start showing more old school style documentaries. Real educational unbiased documentaries about all sorts of ****. No gimmicks or flashy theatrics, just do shows that tell me why science is awesome. And if they don't have any documentaries to show, then make their own. Cancel 70-80% of the **** that they're funding now, and use that money to make their own documentaries that aren't trashy or exploitative.
Really, don't become Fox. If I wanted to watch the stuff on Fox, I'd be watching Fox. You're Discovery Channel. Enough with "Destroyed in Seconds". That **** might have value on some other channel, but Discovery Channel should set the bar higher than that. Enough with the clone shows. I like Mythbusters. That show is often stupid as hell, but it still has a certain charm. The reason I watch it despite knowing that it's stupid is BECAUSE OF ITS CHARM. You try to replicate that kind of **** inother shows, and it just looks dumb and pathetic. Smash Lab? Jesus Christ, are you kidding me?
A FEW of these fluff shows are acceptable. But don't get a succesful show and then make a dozen clones that suck ass. That just makes the entire channel ass.
And no more "How Stuff works". Hey, don't eliminate the show ENTIRELY. But that's taking the trashy "blowing **** up" sleaze way too far into the opposite extreme. They show "How Stuff Works" WAAAAAY too often. and that show is boring as hell. I understand that it's pure education. The problem is that it's pure education about stuff that no one really gives a **** about. Yes, it's a show about "how stuff is made". It's pure education and no entertainment. Keep that show on the air, just stop showing it so much. Does anyone REALLY care how pencils or hammers or toilet paper is made? Keep the show, just stop showing it four ****ing times a day. People watch that **** because they don't feel like changing the channel. I like the show, but there's only so much i can get out of watching random stuff go through an assembly line. If I cared THAT much, I'd get a job working on an assembly line.
MrGeezer
Dirty Jobs - I'll admit that it seems like fluff, as i even mentioned in my post. But there is still a "discovery" aspect to it. It educates people about all the professions that most people don't recognize even exist, along with whatever skills it requires. It's a show that manages to be educational AND entertaining. These are the types of shows that should be featured prominently, and thankfully, is. Sure, I'd be happier if were more educational as well as very entertaining, but unfortunately, you often can't have it both ways. Hell, it's rare enough to find a balanced light mix of both.
Mythbusters - This fits in nicely right on top of Dirty Jobs, it is even more educational and more entertaining. They make thorough use of the scientific method intelligently, and then engineer all the means to perform their experiments themselves. At the same time, they are satisfying our curiosities about things we'd never be able to prove, making it immensely entertaining. These shows are definitely NOT fluff, and deserve their prime time slots.
Deadliest Catch - This is basically Dirty Jobs, but focusing on the skills and stresses of one particularly dangerous job. There's a strong sociological aspect to it, and while i'm not a huge fan, I feel that it's a good documentary also worthy of being in good time slots.
Junkyard Wars - I can't believe you picked this as a show to gripe about. This show was one of the most amazingly entertaining and educationally intriguing shows to me, and i'm sure any amateur/wanna-be engineers (or engineering enthusiasts) would agree strongly. This show was pure gold and deserves to be brought back. Like yesterday.
American Chopper - Another show that i'm not a fan of, but i can see the sociological, design, and engineering aspects of the show, and even I found myself watching it every now and again.
Smash Lab - Yet another show that i agree is less than great, but still educational enough to be worthy of the Discovery Channel.
How Stuff Works - This show's modus operandi is, in essence, not extremely dissimilar to Dirty Jobs. Like the Dirty Jobs, it draws in viewers by bringing to painstaking attention all the work that goes into common objects. It presents the object first, causing curiosity in the viewer, then details the operations of it's construction. In this way it is quite entertaining, and again features design and engineering prominently an interesting and educational way. If you think it's not entertaining, do you think it would have all the time slots it does?
If there's one thing i've concluded from your rant, is that you have no ability to separate entertainment and education. Up until very recently, The Discovery Channel has been extremely good at picking out the shows that were able to successfully entertain and educate, and just about all of these shows are good examples of that ability.
Funny thing is, i noticed more sleaze when i saw the premiere of that Time Warp show. If you've seen it, you can tell it's just a bunch of jerk offs with a high-speed camera, filming whatever they think might be cool. There's no educational benefit in watching half of these segments. I started to think to myself "what's going on here?" Discovery Channel used to be one of the highest quality and most respectable networks out there...
I'm starting to even see the sleazy qualities in shows i didn't mind. Take Man vs. Wild, for instance. Now I see that a huge part of the appeal is that Bear is constantly eating the most disgusting things, and Discovery loves to advertise that, just like fear factor and survivor. The same can be said about Dirty Jobs, but at least Dirty Jobs and Man vs. Wild have at least some educational merit.
[QUOTE="Jazz_Fan"]No.[QUOTE="mohan88"][QUOTE="Jazz_Fan"]Does SS4 have kryptonite?xNJN
Then I would think Superman would win cause that's his only weakness.
...Instant Teleportation...Ruins of Krypton... Superman not so super...
Isn't there a limit to that Instant Transmission thing that Goku does? I'm fairly certain that he had to had been to his destination once before.While i'll agree with everyone that Tool fans are usually more obnoxious than most other fans of other bands, I will have to disagree at your assertion that Tool is somehow shallow. And Metal heads and a lot of indie folk, i've noticed, are really bad too. Talk about being super elitist, Metal heads are always quick to start an argument about making sure you ALWAYS get the right sub-genre right when talking about a band. Because it's such a damned crime to call Children of Bodom Death Metal when their CLEARLY a MELODIC death metal band, and stating otherwise is blasphemy to ALL that is metal and brutal. And Indie folk Just cant STAND it when (GOD FORBID) other people enjoy the same music as them. In Fact, it's such sacrilege that they must completely denounce the band as being pop and move on to even more obscure bands. What is with music culture these days?Tool fans are rather annoying as well, for some reason they think Tool is deep. Uh, wut?
majoras_wrath
What's wrong with the G1? the price? There aren't any good qwerty phones for cheap..Okay I want a phone that is like the t-mobile g1.
knightsofwar
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