@csward Geez you actually played LoL, that's where all the douchebags gather to play with each other. I learned that from playing a few games of DOTA in warcraft 3 years ago.

@Trender_man You never know, kids these days are so into their Facebook and Twitter. But I do agree, it is stupid.

@Total_mischiefHere I found the picture, and to compare look at the 2nd link.

http://www.gametrailers.com/side-mission/files/2012/02/The-last-of-us-joel-and-ellie.jpg

http://www.gamerzines.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/LOU.jpg

@Total_mischief if you can find some of the beginning pictures of Ellie, like the E3 premiere trailer for the last of us a couple of years ago.

@dlhoff @the_big_doggg Metacritic is the best way if you want a broad view of what people think of the game. Never go with just one site, any game 80+ on metacritic is a good game too me.

Anyone know what games will be released with the ps4 at launch?

This game is going to flop big time, Bethesda is known for having very buggy games and for an MMO that is unacceptable. Especially if they do some monthly payment option.

@PixelAddict I can agree Jak 3 story was a little disappointing, but the game play was the best of the 3.

@Daedalus87m I agree he just wanted his money back and possibly keep the game as well.

BLITZBALL IN HD!!!