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President Obama has drastically raised our deficit by 4 trilliion dollars in less than 4 years (even after calling deficit spending by Bush "irresponsible" and "unpatriotic" in his 2008 campaign). It's the most rapid increase in debt under any president. I think that's a price too high for trusting him in a 2nd term.
KC_Hokie
You do know the radical majorityof that deficit was actually based on the Bush adminstration right? The Bush adminstration specifically and intentionally kept the costs of the two wars (Afghan and Iraq) out of any kind of deficit.. But Obama adminstration put it within the budget, hence why we see a radical increase right at his office even though he didn't pass anything what so ever.. This isn't suggesting that I am in favor of some of Obama's spending plans, but this is just ridiculous.. Furthermore where did Obama or democrats in general started bringing in Patriotism in whats Patriotic and what isn't? Because since 9/11 that has been firm territory rhetoric with which the Republicans have wielded not the other side.I wasn't a big Bush fan..far from it. But to blame Bush for Obama's spending and debt is just flat out dishonest.


So the first graph is from a place called hyscience.com and at the bottom if you enlarge the graph in that fine black print it says:
Sources:OMB historical tables, SBC Republican calculations
For presidents Clinton and Bush, only debt added during their first terms is included.
Compares average annual rate of growth in debt under Obama to the average rate under George W. Bush and Clinton.
The second graph is from http://www.westernfreepress.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/budget-create-deficits-850-570x289.jpg
A republican site that is just a less professional Fox news wannabe.
The third graph is from http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/obama-hockey-stick-e1312806903899.jpg
Even worse site than the second. But the main problem is the graph itself. You are holding the president accountable for spending that has little to do with him.
The federal budget is divided into three major categories. Mandatory spending, which is funding that continues without Congress having to approve it each year. Three programs, Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid, comprise almost 70 percent of all mandatory spending. Discretionary spending which is funding that Congress must reappropriate anew each year. And then Interest payments which are the annual costs associated with the federal debt. As the federal government runs deficits and borrows money, it builds up an accumulated level of debt. The government, just as any other borrower, has to pay interest on that debt. The amount of interest it pays on its publicly held debt is a function of the size of the debt and interest rates.
There are two broad categories within discretionary spending: spending that is related to national defense, especially the military, and spending that is not. Now, non-defense spending usually makes up less than half of discretionary spending and includes things that you may find are less painless to cut spending on then you make them out to be. This includes:
Income security
Education, training, employment, and social services
Health
International affairs
Veterans benefits and services
Administration of justice
Natural resources and environment
Transportation
General science, space, and technology
Community and regional development
General government
Commerce and housing credit
Agriculture
Energy
Now if you want to argue with graphs and charts like you so love to do, at least make sure you are analyzing them thoroughly and understand what they are showing before you try to use them in a argument. And also make sure they do not misconstrue the facts to support your agenda. (looking at you graph number one.) Now if you find out what Obama has signed to spike an increase in government spending then by all means present it, but otherwise there is no reason to waste time talking about this with you, especially with the type of "sources" you're looking at, and a failure to analyze your own information.
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