[QUOTE="II_Seraphim_II"]

[QUOTE="bobaban"]  Yeah I know, I hate that I think this way. But if you went through an entire year of this when you're trying to concentrate on school it's maddening. bobaban

Well i actually happen to be African (and black) and I hate loud music, I generally prefer my own company, and I dont enjoy having people over all the time. In fact more often than not, its my roommates having parties and people over, but I dont complain because I respect the right for my roommate to have people over since he is paying part of the rent, and I learned a long time ago how to ignore distracting noises and concentrate on the work at hand. Basically what I'm trying to get at is that its pretty ignorant for you to classify an entire race based on your experience with a single African person. There are good Africans just like there are bad Africans. There are good white people just as there are bad white people. Being a decent human being has nothing to do with race.

Didnt one of the rebels eat another man's heart and film it? Im gonna say the rebels are definitely capable.

EDIT: On the real though, anything is possible :?

[QUOTE="II_Seraphim_II"][QUOTE="stereointegrity"]that will screw over sony if truesukraj

no matter what happens sony are screwed.

Neon powers? :lol:mems_1224

that will screw over sony if truestereointegrity

[QUOTE="II_Seraphim_II"][QUOTE="Wasdie"]

The Syrian people are going to lose no matter what happens.

BossPerson

That's what people dont understand. Yes, its terrible to be under a dictator, but the thing is when said dictator is removed, you have a power vacuum, and that can be more dangerous. Chaos is the most dangerous thing. In Sadaam Iraq u knew not to go against the govt and you had a pretty good chance of not ending up killed. Nowadays, you can just be walking down the street and get bombed for no apparent reason. It doesnt matter what ideology you have or who you voted for, its indiscriminate killing now. You may say you removed a dictator, but can you imagine living in a place where going out every day is like flipping a coin? Some form of order is always better than chaos in my books. Besides, Im a firm believer that Revolutions should be from within than without.

I feel like the reason the US and all other western nations lasted so long is because the people themselves revolted, and suffered and lost friends and families to secure their freedom so they know what it cost them to have peace and stability and they will do anything to keep that, out of respect for those that died before them. When you "give" people "freedom" they didnt earn it, they don't know its value, and as such they are more likely to abuse it and you go into another cycle of violence. Also, more likely than not, the person who will be placed in power will be some puppet who has the West more in mind than his own people...definitely not a good way to start.

[QUOTE="BossPerson"]better for everybody except the Syrian people,Wasdie

The Syrian people are going to lose no matter what happens.

That's what people dont understand. Yes, its terrible to be under a dictator, but the thing is when said dictator is removed, you have a power vacuum, and that can be more dangerous. Chaos is the most dangerous thing. In Sadaam Iraq u knew not to go against the govt and you had a pretty good chance of not ending up killed. Nowadays, you can just be walking down the street and get bombed for no apparent reason. It doesnt matter what ideology you have or who you voted for, its indiscriminate killing now. You may say you removed a dictator, but can you imagine living in a place where going out every day is like flipping a coin? Some form of order is always better than chaos in my books. Besides, Im a firm believer that Revolutions should be from within than without.

I feel like the reason the US and all other western nations lasted so long is because the people themselves revolted, and suffered and lost friends and families to secure their freedom so they know what it cost them to have peace and stability and they will do anything to keep that, out of respect for those that died before them. When you "give" people "freedom" they didnt earn it, they don't know its value, and as such they are more likely to abuse it and you go into another cycle of violence. Also, more likely than not, the person who will be placed in power will be some puppet who has the West more in mind than his own people...definitely not a good way to start.

Sounds like an intervention of some sort is coming up. Honestly think it is the worst thing you could do. We have no right to get involved and we'll probably make it worse anyway. We haven't learnt from Iraq.michaelP4

I agree with you 100%. What people dont seem to understand is how dangerous the US and Britain and France are acting right now. The sort of precedent they are setting right now is very dangerous. The only way that they could go in is by directly ignoring the UN (which will not pass a vote because China and Russia will veto) and that would in turn make their actions against international law and show that the UN is just as useless as the League of Nations before it. Acting against the UN's will discredit the entire UN. And its actually acting like spoiled children.

They want the UN to be respected when its agreeing with them, but then they want to ignore it when its not working in its favor. For instance, how does Israel get away with disregarding UN resolutions? Because the US vetos any attempts to address the issue. So the UN is great then, but now that China and Russia are vetoing the US's idea of what should be done, they want to circumvent it? This is a very dangerous play they are making.

They are showing the world that the UN is only relevant when its doing what they want, and a lot of nations are going to question the validity of the entire institution. And also, they are messing with the wrong person this time around. Putin has already shown time and time again that he isn't like his predecessors, willing to just follow the US in whatever. Putin has made it clear that Mother Russia is still a major player and he will not be cowered into assimilating with the US's will like the UK and France are. So there will be some disasterous political consequences there too.

[QUOTE="Capitan_Kid"][QUOTE="bobaban"]

I actually have a roommate from Africa. And yes, he invites several others to live with us, even though they aren't under the lease. They play loud music way into the night. I've had up to 8 people sleeping on the floor/couches in a 2 bdm apt. Really it's a huge problem, especially when you're buying supplies meant only for you. I don't mind sharing with one other person, but not 3-4 others. Landlord does jack **** about it too. I can see why, there is a REASON.

 

Obviously it's not going to be every African doing this, but this experience has soured me and I made sure therer was no black roommates in the place I'm getting in Sept.

bobaban

Well i actually happen to be African (and black) and I hate loud music, I generally prefer my own company, and I dont enjoy having people over all the time. In fact more often than not, its my roommates having parties and people over, but I dont complain because I respect the right for my roommate to have people over since he is paying part of the rent, and I learned a long time ago how to ignore distracting noises and concentrate on the work at hand. Basically what I'm trying to get at is that its pretty ignorant for you to classify an entire race based on your experience with a single African person. There are good Africans just like there are bad Africans. There are good white people just as there are bad white people. Being a decent human being has nothing to do with race.