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[QUOTE="balfe1990"]That's what I'm bemoaning here. They had an original vision, for better or worse, and had to twist and contort it to meet the demands of a vocal subset of gamers on the internet. Which is f*cking tragic in my opinion. They've just stripped their initial plans down to it's bare bones and have re-dressed it as a shittier PS4.
They're going to get stomped as a result. We could have had some truly great battles between the two consoles, but now it'll come down to X1 getting squashed underfoot.
I'm not going to get either console, but at one stage, I was thinking, if I had to get one I'd get the X1. The PS4 certainly looked attractive, but by and large, it's a more powerful 360. It's not doing anything particularly noteworthy to shake the console space up because, at it's core, it's a weak gaming PC. And it's pretty hilarious to see people getting so worked up about a gimped computer.
At least the Xbox One and it's original strike plan could have made things interesting and given gaming the next shove in the right direction. And yes, I'm talking about always-online, Kinect req. etc. All those idiots bleating "NSA, kinect lol" bollocks be damned.
They don't realise all they're getting with the PS4 is a refined and medium specced PC. Just LOL.
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Good post there, sadly, seems MS is completely lost at this point, due to all the backlash, they have no idea what they're doing anymore, and true, that will result in a mess, the console will have no chance against the PS4 where Sony knew exactly what they're doing, and got a warm public reception for it.
As much as I disliked most of the original X1 practices, to entirely backtrack on everything and badly copy the PS4 is much worse, MS should've done a better job at listening to the audience, refine the vision and adjust things to be more "gamer-friendly", but since that didn't happen, we now have a very good chance of X1 flopping badly on the market, and if a high-profile console, a major investment flops badly, all SW aside, that definitely won't be a good thing for the industry.
Yep, they're just floundering and gasping for air at this point and it's uncomfortable to watch. Thanks to their terrible start, everything they do from here on in is met with suspicion and criticism and Sony have just coasted by on their failure.
Sony doesn't need a marketing dept. when they have MS. They really need to pull something special out of the bag to redeem themselves. Like I mean, incredible, incredible games. System sellers, otherwise they're f*cked.
I was never a fan of the original MS vision for the Xbox 1, but you do make some valid points. I think MS's major problem was that they were so out of touch with the consumers. They acted so arrogant and didnt put any effort into trying to appease consumers. They could have introduced their console in a different manner, they could have expressed their views and ideas in a clear concise manner that consumers could understand. It would have made for a lot less bad press. For instance, the Kinect. They let rumors about it spying and all that stuff go on for way too long. They should have just come out, straight from the get go explaining in a clear cut manner the privacy issues. I think what really hurt MS this upcoming gen was their attitude. They just didnt seem to give a damn about the consumers' concerns, and it came to bite them in the ass. Add to that the fact that Sony went for the jugular, and MS was pretty much screwed. Now they find themselves in a situation were all that near decade worth of planning, investment and policies have been completely scrapped and they are trying to scramble together a new direction for their console. 
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