[QUOTE="ImaPirate0202"]

[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

You have no way of knowing his intentions. Maybe it's just how he really feels? Ever consider that?

GreySeal9

Honestly, he's just sounding like a rebellious teenager who hates the system.

To me, this sounds sort of ad homenish.

I would address the points he's making but I just can't take them seriously.

[QUOTE="ImaPirate0202"]

[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

The problem is that he was just putting the PC card into play where it doesn't really belong. Theone's statement was anything but politically correct.

GreySeal9

Actually, I kind of agree. Atleast, it's probably not the words I would have used.

As I said before the other poster is just overanalyzing the holiday. Probably for attention, or something.

You have no way of knowing his intentions. Maybe it's just how he really feels? Ever consider that?

Honestly, he's just sounding like a rebellious teenager who hates the system.

[QUOTE="ImaPirate0202"]

EDIT: Actually, that statement was in support of BMD004's definition of being politically correct.

GreySeal9

The problem is that he was just putting the PC card into play where it doesn't really belong. Theone's statement was anything but politically correct.

Actually, I kind of agree. Atleast, it's probably not the words I would have used.

As I said before the other poster is just overanalyzing the holiday. Probably for attention, or something.

[QUOTE="ImaPirate0202"]

[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

No, he's not. He basically said that patriotism is an inane concept. He never took anybody to task for being animated people with opinions that may offend.

GreySeal9

Yes, by labeling people who celebrate the holiday as tools.

Even if he did label them tools, when did he say anything about being a robot that doesn't offend anybody?

You can read. Go back a few pages.

EDIT: Actually, that statement was in support of BMD004's definition of being politically correct.

[QUOTE="ImaPirate0202"]

[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

The only problem is theone never said anything about not offending anybody.

GreySeal9

Nope, but he's criticizing others for doing the opposite of what I said.

No, he's not. He basically said that patriotism is an inane concept. He never took anybody to task for being animated people with opinions that may offend.

Yes, by labeling people who celebrate the holiday as tools.

[QUOTE="ImaPirate0202"]

[QUOTE="theone86"]

Putting up streamers and decorating the town with the state's colors, singing songs glorifying the state, organizing marches and parades again glorifying the state, those are all tactics of propaganda. You can argue whether what they're aggrandizing is good or not, but there's no arguing that it's not propagnda.

theone86

I think you're just overanalyzing the holiday...

I think you're just underanalyzing the holiday...

I never gave my opinion of the holiday.

[QUOTE="ImaPirate0202"]

[QUOTE="BMD004"]Because when somebody shows a hint of pride or bias, it is seen as bad. For example, a politically correct person would say nobody in any country should be very patriotic about where they come from because no country is better than another country.

GreySeal9

Yep... we should all be unemotional robots as not to offend anybody.

The only problem is theone never said anything about not offending anybody.

Nope, but he's criticizing others for doing the opposite of what I said.

[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

[QUOTE="BMD004"]No. I don't think you know what politically correct means. Politically correct simply means that you are trying as hard as possible to make sure nobody is offended,

BMD004

And how does his statement at all make sure nobody is offended? It's the kind of statement that's anti-mainstream and offensive to the average person.

And how do you know that theone made the statement with the intention of not offending anybody? Show me the exacts words in his statement that makes you believe that.

Yep... we should all be unemotional robots as not to offend anybody.

[QUOTE="BMD004"]

[QUOTE="theone86"]

I never expressly said there was anything wrong with people celebrating it, but saying that there is NO propaganda in fourth celebrations whatsoever is just patently false.

theone86

Putting up streamers and decorating the town with the state's colors, singing songs glorifying the state, organizing marches and parades again glorifying the state, those are all tactics of propaganda. You can argue whether what they're aggrandizing is good or not, but there's no arguing that it's not propagnda.

I think you're just overanalyzing the holiday...

Both are great, but if I had to pick which one I'd rather watch right now it'd be a LOTR film.