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#1 JabbaDaHutt30
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[QUOTE="JabbaDaHutt30"][QUOTE="observer77"]

really if it were not for sentiments in law we would not have certain laws that are based on those sentiments in mind without some kind of sentiments in law we proble wouldn't have laws that were not outside of the guide lines of the bible.

So yes they should play a role the victim is the reason the person is being punished which is why victims and victims families are alllowed to have some say/influence on if a person will get out of prison. the punishment is for the family,

but must follow the guidlines of the set laws and if the set laws in this situation say she has this kind of say then she is allowed to have this kind of say for the punishment.

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Your posts are hard to read. I don't know where you want to go with this, but the judgement of victims or relations don't and shouldn't have any influence on the court's decision.

yeah I realized my posts are going off on something else so I moved my thoughts to another post but I do beleive that if the laws in her country are that she has a say in the matter then I feel that is their choice.

Their choice is *wrong* and their culture - primitive.
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#2 JabbaDaHutt30
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[QUOTE="JabbaDaHutt30"][QUOTE="remmbermytitans"]Is that any different from our death penalty system? It's essentially "an eye for an eye", you killed someone, now you get killed too. remmbermytitans
Do you not realize that you are merely giving in into your destructive emotions? Sating your hate toward the criminal and trying to reason it? Then men become no more than animals. It is ironic that "In God we trust" is on the currency of a nation that utilizes the death penalty. You are feeding the Dark Side...

God sends people to hell. In the end, the way they acted during their lives determines whether or not they get into heaven. God too judges people on their actions. And there is no Dark Side or Light Side, there is ONE whole force. And if you want to split it into good and evil, that's your choice. ;)

Is America God's equal in judgement? And there is the force... which can be used for evil or good reasons.
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#3 JabbaDaHutt30
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[QUOTE="JabbaDaHutt30"][QUOTE="observer77"]

impractical to you but to a bunch of other people it isn't, but I am also for the death penalty so in my mind this makes sense. I am not saying everyone for the death penalty should be for this I am just saying because i beleive in the death penalty as a sensical act I feel that blinding him makes sense to me.

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Those "bunch of other people('s)" sentiments shouldn't play any role.

really if it were not for sentiments in law we would not have certain laws that are based on those sentiments in mind without some kind of sentiments in law we proble wouldn't have laws that were not outside of the guide lines of the bible.

So yes they should play a role the victim is the reason the person is being punished which is why victims and victims families are alllowed to have some say/influence on if a person will get out of prison the punishment is for the family but must follow the guidlines of the set laws and if the set laws in this situation say she has this kind of say then she is allowed to have this kind of say for the punishment.

Your posts are hard to read. I don't know where you want to go with this, but the judgement of victims or relations don't and shouldn't have any influence on the court's decision.
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#4 JabbaDaHutt30
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Is that any different from our death penalty system? It's essentially "an eye for an eye", you killed someone, now you get killed too. remmbermytitans
Do you not realize that you are merely giving in into your destructive emotions? Sating your hate toward the criminal and trying to reason it? Then men become no more than animals. It is ironic that "In God we trust" is on the currency of a nation that utilizes the death penalty. You are feeding the Dark Side...
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#5 JabbaDaHutt30
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[QUOTE="JabbaDaHutt30"][QUOTE="observer77"]

wow. I don't think being a "proud american" has anything to do with what I think would be a fitting punishment (I am not "proud to be an american") I think it has more to do with ones emotions toward the incident then where one is from or feels for his/her country.

personally I think the punishment would fit the crime just fine in this case he is sure to do something else, I mean if he can still see and gets out of prison and still has his"need" for her he could go back and find her and he has already made it hard for her to defend herself if that were to happen. He deserves it I beleive he would just keep coming back or find someone new to harrass.

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There's no need for blinding him, because there are other ways to prevent that from happening. Unless you can give me a valid reason for that punishment, I'd dismiss it as an unreasonable and emotional 'solution'. And if he'd actually get released from prison, he'd probably be one of the first on the list of suspects, if anything were to happen to the woman. The saying "An eye for an eye" is not based on reason - it is an emotional reaction without any practicality.

impractical to you but to a bunch of other people it isn't, but I am also for the death penalty so in my mind this makes sense. I am not saying everyone for the death penalty should be for this I am just saying because i beleive in the death penalty as a sensical act I feel that blinding him makes sense to me.

Those "bunch of other people('s)" sentiments shouldn't play any role.
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[QUOTE="JabbaDaHutt30"]Unless you can give me a valid reason for that punishment, I'd dismiss it as an unreasonable and emotional 'solution'. tofu-lion91
I'll give you a reason. Everytime I hear of an attacker on the news getting sent to prison it's never for long enough. They get months if that and the victims always say they'd have hoped for a harsher sentence. Parents who lose their children to drink drivers have to live with that loss for the rest of their lives and what does the drink driver get? A couple of years and they're out on bail soon enough. I bet if they brought the 'eye for an eye' punishment here then victims would be much more satisfied. This is as long as you can prove it was them beyond a doubt. And what's this about human rights? I think if you attack someone then you lose some human rights and if you kill someone you lose ALL human rights. After all you've breached theirs.

The law is not there for the satisfaction of the victims or the victims' relatives. That reasoning is based on sentimentality.
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[QUOTE="XD4NTESINF3RNOX"][QUOTE="clembo1990"]In Iran? Hell yes. maybe in 500 years they'll discover mercy.

he basically ruined her life why would he get mercy?

Because the murderer did this out of an emotional impulse, but the court that condemns him tries to reason this sort of punishment upon him, therefore making the court the greater sinners.
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[QUOTE="JabbaDaHutt30"]Disgusting. There's no doubt in my mind that some "proud Americans" here would find the punishment fitting.observer77

wow. I don't think being a "proud american" has anything to do with what I think would be a fitting punishment (I am not "proud to be an american") I think it has more to do with ones emotions toward the incident then where one is from or feels for his/her country.

personally I think the punishment would fit the crime just fine in this case he is sure to do something else, I mean if he can still see and gets out of prison and still has his"need" for her he could go back and find her and he has already made it hard for her to defend herself if that were to happen. He deserves it I beleive he would just keep coming back or find someone new to harrass.

There's no need for blinding him, because there are other ways to prevent that from happening. Unless you can give me a valid reason for that punishment, I'd dismiss it as an unreasonable and emotional 'solution'. And if he'd actually get released from prison, he'd probably be one of the first on the list of suspects, if anything were to happen to the woman. The saying "An eye for an eye" is not based on reason - it is an emotional reaction without any practicality.
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#9 JabbaDaHutt30
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[QUOTE="Euroshinobi"] Britain has one of the highest rates of immigration in the world. ;)Ninja-Hippo
no they dont......because it would show.......britain is mainly a white population....with little of different races, black, asian arab......but its mostly white, the place is about as diverse as a rock

:lol: What are you talking about? My home city of liverpool has the largest chinese community (ouside of china) in the world. 750,000 polish people have moved here since Poland joined the EU in 2004. There are whole towns of middle eastern people, and more indian people leave for Britain than any other country in the world. In fact it's even a running joke in India that 'the home land' is referred to as england. Honestly, you really dont know what you're talking about with that statement.

What does the immigration rate have to do with the pleasantness of a country anyway? It just means that region is more... accessible for other people.

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[QUOTE="Rigga911"][QUOTE="God_of_duty117"]Sure. I can't say that were in the best of shape right now, but I'd still rather be here than anywhere else really.Euroshinobi
wow, youre saying other countries arent good enough for you? smh!

well lets face it.......immigrants from all over the world come to america for a reason.......so with all do respect.......me having lived in europe.......no there is no place like america

Do your brooms and tips treat the cleaners and hotdog sellers better?