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#1 Jagged3dge
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Why are the Warriors shopping David Lee, their former All-Star.  I'm not understanding this move.  Why does it seem like they would prefer Josh Smith over there.

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#2 Jagged3dge
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OKC will be dreading that Harden deal until they win a championship.  It would really suck if the Rockets won before them.

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I was thinking about this last night... The Thunder basically threw away a potential Dynasty... for Kevin Martin (gone), Alex Len (never heard of him), and a second round guy who may not even make the roster. I remember after the trade happened, people here were like 'This reminds me of the Joe Johnson trade' Looks pretty good now.

Looking at it now, it has to be one of the worst trades in history.  I didn't realize Martin was just a one year rental...  And this was all for what? To save a bit of money?  They better hope Ibaka really pans out into that 3rd option.

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#3 Jagged3dge
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He's probably the only star I could name that would sit out a postseason having been cleared months prior.

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Well it's easy to say that in hindsight. Before Rose's injury people always talked about how he was tough and had that "killer instinct" that guys like Lebron supposedly lacked.

So it's easy to say "Oh, Kevin Durant would never sit out in a situation like that" but we really don't know. I would've expected Rose to come back as soon as possible too.

Yeah you're right, that's true.

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OKC will be dreading that Harden deal until they win a championship.  It would really suck if the Rockets won before them.

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Right he played hurt, he didn't have an injury. He's no hero, and again I'd like to know why you are assuming most NBA players wouldn't have played the biggest game of the season with this "pain". Everyone is playing tired and hurt this late into the season. Plantar fasciitis, shin splints, rolled ankles, body soreness, etc. are all commonplace and most of them won't heal until the end of the season when the player can rest. Haslem just had surgery for a torn meniscus that he had been playing on for half the season. Parker admitted he wouldn't have played in the regular season with his hamstring. Dwight Howard had a torn labrum and a bad back throughout the whole season. It's pretty foolish to think that most players would gut all 82 regular season games, 20+ playoff games, and wouldn't attempt to play through pain for the biggest game of the season.

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How are 3 bone bruises on your knee not classified as an injury? :lol:  I'm really glad you didn't go into medicine.

I only used the info given from before the game 7 to illustrate what Wade had been playing with this entire postseason, to the point that he had to go through a lot just to keep going for the final game.  Good point bringing up Haslem, dude is a hometown hero for real.  Didn't even hear a peep about it until after the season too.  

Notice how all the guys you named are superstars.  Yeah you would expect that sort of thing from a star considering they're essential to the team.  Rose thought otherwise though.  He's probably the only star I could name that would sit out a postseason having been cleared months prior.

Rose has proven he can play through pain and has done so before. He's missed a total of five games in his career prior to the ACL injury. Even if that wasn't the case, it's not even fair to compare the two. Obviously he wasn't "fine" or he would have played. Even after he was medically cleared, he said he couldn't do the things he wanted to on the court. He's one of the most wreckless and fearless players going to the rim, and if he was constantly thinking about his knee, clearly his game would have been negatively effected. The chances of reinjuring his ACL or having a different injury would also increase dramatically if he was favoring it and not letting his knee function how it naturally would.

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Nobody said Rose needed to return and give his team superstar D-Rose.  Noah was practically playing on one foot and he still went out and gave it all he had, very few guys on the roster were 100%, we wouldn't have expected Rose coming off an injury to give his team 100%.  But damn tough it out and give your team something man, even if its 10-15 mpg.  He even could of played some minutes just to inspire his team like David Lee did for that game.  Its called being a team leader.  Other players around him see that and they try to step up their game just a little more for him.  I don't think you realize he was MEDICALLY CLEARED, the docters noted there was no chance of reaggravating the injury; hence, why he was MEDICALLY CLEARED.  And this was from what early March?  I'm sure the expectations are going to be at an all-time high when he finally returns next season.  Assuming he doesn't sit that one out too.  

Then how do you know Wade would have played in the first place? :|

He misses a lot games. He missed one earlier in the playoffs. Even if they were up in the series...it's the playoffs :|

white_sox

I know Wade would of played because he's never sat out a game when he was physically healthy.  No, he really doesn't miss a lot of games.  Oh wow he missed the game 4 Bucks game because the coaching staff told him to sit this one out, and guess what the Heat still won convincingly...It would of been stupid to go about it any other way.  Keep reaching.

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#6 Jagged3dge
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[QUOTE="TheWalkingGhost"]Bynum is reportedly refusing to work out for teams unless they sign him. :roll: What an ego, and an undeserved one. I hope he gets kicked out of the league for that attitude.TheWalkingGhost

For a guy drafted straight out of high school, he knows how to play these organizations like a business scholar :lol:

Seriously, this guy has been receiving great deals based off his "potential" for his entire career now.

"Potential" will only get you so far.

You would think right? But watch another team sign him for a huge deal.  I'm hoping this dude's business game finally ends but there are too many stupid GMs to put any faith into that notion.

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Bynum is reportedly refusing to work out for teams unless they sign him. :roll: What an ego, and an undeserved one. I hope he gets kicked out of the league for that attitude.TheWalkingGhost

For a guy drafted straight out of high school, he knows how to play these organizations like a business scholar :lol:

Seriously, this guy has been receiving great deals based off his "potential" for his entire career now.

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I love the large square burgers that Wendy's has. :DAquat1cF1sh

That has to be the worst "burger" on the market.

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#9 Jagged3dge
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[QUOTE="TheWalkingGhost"] Yeah, because Wade and D-Rose had the same injury. :roll:white_sox

Way to miss the point.

But you have no point. You're trying to call someone out on something that has no legitimate comparison whatsoever.

You didn't even list an injury for Wade...you just said he had fluid in his knee.

Trying to say that most NBA players wouldn't have played in game 7 of the NBA finals because of this is

1) baseless and

2) probably not true

Wade's hurt on every other play he is involved in. Maybe he hams it up a little more than what is being lead on. Ever thought about that?

Wade played through pain, Rose was fine but didn't play because he wasn't mentally ready...uhh yeah. And I wasn't speaking for only game 7.

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[QUOTE="PSP107"]And lol at "we don't base the potential of team off indiviual series" You of all people say it all the time that a loss is a loss. Bottomline, They couldn't get it done. PSP107

You missed the point.

I'll just say the Nets look like they can do damage on paper, but we'll see if they can endure the 82 game season.  I'm not just going to blindly hype them up.  The bench looks pitiful as well.

See now your backtracking or being inconsistence. On one end you say the Nets is one of the teams that could beat the Heat. Then you tell me you dont based the potential of team off indiviual series. Now your the using on paper theory which is actually my point. All I was saying is the additions of Garnett, Pierce and Terry shouldn't really scare Pacers(with West) Bulls(Fully Healthy). Im glad you brung up the Nets bench because I haven't even brought that up even though it makes my arguement stronger.

No I'm not, I said both them and the Pacers are a threat to the Heat.  Assuming everything goes right.  Like finishing the season healthy, D-Will having an All-Star year like he should, Pierce and KG not declining rapidly (another thing I don't see happening this year at least).  Both of those teams have two things that could really punish the Heat right now, which is a big frontcourt that can score.  

"Then you tell me you dont based the potential of team off indiviual series." Yeah cause what does the accomplishments of Boston and Brooklyn last year have to do with this current team.  

Regarding the bench problem, it looks like they just got Kyle Korver which is a great move.  

You're so behind the Bulls, but I'm not convinced at all. Their offense is still heavily dependent on Rose and we don't even know if he'll return in superstar form.  And the Bulls organization really hasn't done much to put solid pieces around him since that productive 2011 year.