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The Dominican Republic is getting ready to pass a constitutional Amendment that protects life from conception to natural death, only the head of the regional division of UNICEF ( who is not even a Dominican citizen, he's a Swede) is butting into this.

I'm just wondering, does the UN and it's agencies interfere in countrys' domestic laws often?

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Well this sunday marked the fourth anniversary of Pope Benedict XVI's election. So how do you think he's doing? I think he's doing a good job.

Last week also marks one year since his visit to the U.S.A.

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He's no Winston Churchill, that's for sure.

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No the Pope didn't say that homosexuality is abnormal, he said it is abnormal for two people of the same sex to have sex with each other because it defeats the natural purpose of the sexual act which is procreation (not to mention there is no complementarity of parts and thus no "true sex").

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He said human nature needed to be protected. So if we're protecting nature from homosexuality, homosexuality in itself is an abnormality of nature is it not? Saying homosexual sex is abnormal is exactly the same thing as saying homosexuality is abnormal. Let's not lower ourselves to semantics.

saying homosexual sex is abnormal is not the same as saying that homosexual tendencies are abnormal. Saying men should not have sex with other men is not criticizing gay people since there are also straight men who also have sex with other men.

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[QUOTE="braindead_hero"] Oh so It's all OK then, well the Pope isn't a US citizen so I don't see what your problem isbraindead_hero

He also insulted the Bishops and the Knight's who are US citizens. Not to mention to insult the Pope is to insult all 1 billion Catholics, including the 60 Million Catholics who are US Citizens.

What about the Millions of atheists, muslims, protestants and everyone who isn't a catholic who find some or all of the pope's views offensive? Like those on abortion, gay marriage, contraception ect. ect.

I doubt Muslims and Protestants are offending by the Catholic teaching on gay marriage, abortion and contraception since those are also the teachings of their religions. And anyway, if it is offensive to defend innocent human life or to defend the laws of nature and of God, then too bad.

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[QUOTE="JoeRatz16"] Wow the topic of that article is so misleading. the Pope didn't insult gay people (I actually read the actual speech) he said that just as the environment needs protection so does the human person need protection and so does the natural design for the differance between men and women need protecting. He was saying that man should not forget his nature.Vandalvideo
Which relies on the assumption that homosexuality is of an abnormal nature, which is most certainly an insult.

No the Pope didn't say that homosexuality is abnormal, he said it is abnormal for two people of the same sex to have sex with each other because it defeats the natural purpose of the sexual act which is procreation (not to mention there is no complementarity of parts and thus no "true sex").

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How is criticising a person as a discredited leader 'pope bashing'? The fact that the obama-hating is getting this pointless really shows that the opposition crowd haven't got a foot to stand on. He disagrees with the pope's stance on gay marriage and gay rights in general. Good for him. That doesn't make him bad for the job. Heck, i went to a catholic school (which still is a catholic school) and the principle gave a speech in a cathedral just last week about how corrupt and archaic the church has become. The last thing America needs is another yes-man. Ninja-Hippo
the last thing America needs is another yes-man that sucks up to the president. We need someone courageous enough to rebuke Obama.

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Just because the US has historically been prejudiced against Catholics doesn't mean they should continue to defame them, afterall Catholics are protected under the constitution just as much as anyone else. But if the U.S. doesn't care about us, then why should we pay taxes to them or fight their wars for them or even hold their authority over us to be legitimate.

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Where are you coming up with this stuff? One guys comment about disagreeing with the Pope doesn't make the entire religion a group of martyrs.

All I am saying is that if the government wishes to malign Catholicism, then us Catholics have no reason to be loyal to the government or to fund the government or to give life and limb for the government's wars.

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[QUOTE="spazzx625"] How is that a fair comparison at all? You are reading into the tagline of the article too much. The man appointed has a severe problem with the Catholic Churches sentiments towards gay marriage, since he, himself, is a homosexual. What is the problem beyond that?darkhorse286

That is fine for him to disagree with the Catholic Church's belief on what constitutes marriage, but he should respectfully disagree rather than stooping so low as to launch Personal Insults against the Pope, the Bishops and the Knight's. And besides, he's not Catholic, so what should the Church's teachings matter to him?

And the Pope has never openly insulted homosexuals? I think not

Wow the topic of that article is so misleading. the Pope didn't insult gay people (I actually read the actual speech) he said that just as the environment needs protection so does the human person need protection and so does the natural design for the differance between men and women need protecting. He was saying that man should not forget his nature.

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First off...

Why does it matter if he's a gay ideologue? That has nothing to do with this topic.

Anyway, if the council has extremely religious people as well and some moderates, wouldn't that be fair and make the whole thing fairly bias-free. I don't know... just a suggestion.

EDIT: And also! Since when did the United States care about Catholicism? Only one US president (JFK) was a catholic and if I recall, people were scared and thought he would take orders from the pope and turn the US into a Catholic nation.

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Just because the US has historically been prejudiced against Catholics doesn't mean they should continue to defame them, afterall Catholics are protected under the constitution just as much as anyone else. But if the U.S. doesn't care about us, then why should we pay taxes to them or fight their wars for them or even hold their authority over us to be legitimate.