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#1 JoeRatz16
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try this link. It has all of them listed.http://www.vatican.va/archive/ENG0839/_INDEX.HTM
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I love how the anti-Obama folk feel like they have to continue to point out that his middle name is the same as Saddam's last. It's just a bloody name. Give it up already. Besides, I THINK (not 100% sure) that it just translates to something along the lines of "handsome." Not "holy warrior" or anything. It's just a name.

And in b4 "what? I'm just saying his name." You know what you're doing.

EDIT: On topic, I'm sure this has been pointed out already, but I'm pretty sure the common ground they share (and it's in the friggin' article) is that they both want to reduce risky behaviour amongst youngsters. The difference is that PP realizes that they're gonna go ahead and do it anyway, so they encourage safe sex rather than abstinence.

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Hussein translates as handsome? Barack isn't handsome. Saddam isn't handsome. And the only safe sex is with a safe partner. Besides why would Planned Parenthood want to reduce abortions, wouldn't that mean less money for them?
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[QUOTE="JoeRatz16"][QUOTE="bsman00"] O thats right planned parent hood gos around with a vacum, trying to suck out the baby of every pregnant black person........ its a persons choice to get an abrotion no one forces you..... dmc333

except in China. But most Planned Parenthood "clinics" are in minority neighborhoods. And sometimes people are coerced into abortion (though it's illegal).

Supply and demand?

what are you trying to insinuate here, that black people are somehow more likely to want to abort their kids? Look Planned Parenthood is an outdated and vile organization.
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[QUOTE="JoeRatz16"]1. No one is pro-abortion, they're just pro-choice. So when Bush wants to allow the military to torture prisoners at Guantanamo, is he pro-torture or pro-choice? If I say that businesses should be able to not hire blacks if they don't want to, Am I pro-discrimination or pro-choice? 2. As for the war, there is a difference between war and abortion. Abortion has killed 50 million prenatal American children, and Abortion is an intrinsic evil, whereas war is oftentimes a regretable necessity.Tiefster
I'm not going to argue with you because I know I can't change your mind or even hint that you need to look at it in a different light. You also contradict yourself quite a few times so I don't feel like having to put up with trying to explain to you why your response to me is wrong on many levels. I can understand why someone can be pro life but it severely limits the options that women have when faced with that decision.

you're not going to argue with me, Yes! You're trowin' in the towel! And as for the limitting the options part, well some options shouldn't be available, In difficult situations we too often resort to violence to fix the problems, but in the end that only makes things worse.
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[QUOTE="JoeRatz16"][QUOTE="bsman00"]as if they haven't been through enough trauma with the rape and all, now you want them to go through a terrifying and gruesome procedure and become victims of post-abortion syndrome? I guess Brutality is what passes for compassion these days. And people conceived via rape have the same rights as those conceived via any other method. bsman00
Terrifying and gruesome procidure? Post-abortion syndrome? You have never know anyone who has had an abortion have you? So you saying yes the woman should carry the child..... you cant tell people what to do... QUOTE]1. you've never known anyone who's been aborted have you? 2. you can't tell people what to do....... um, yes we can!.

Who is we? Christians?

We can refer to whoever you want it to, the "yes we can" was actually poking fun at Barack Hussein Obama.
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[QUOTE="JoeRatz16"][QUOTE="bsman00"][QUOTE="JoeRatz16"] there is no proof that proof exists and no, Planned Parenthood is not a mid-evil political organization, just an evil one.bsman00
So do you think women should be allowed abortion, if they have beeen raped an become pregnant?

as if they haven't been through enough trauma with the rape and all, now you want them to go through a terrifying and gruesome procedure and become victims of post-abortion syndrome? I guess Brutality is what passes for compassion these days. And people conceived via rape have the same rights as those conceived via any other method.

Terrifying and gruesome procidure? Post-abortion syndrome? You have never know anyone who has had an abortion have you? So you saying yes the woman should carry the child..... you cant tell people what to do... QUOTE]1. you've never known anyone who's been aborted have you? 2. you can't tell people what to do....... um, yes we can!.
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Ok, I'm going to try to clear this up. Just because someone is pro choice does not mean they're for abortion. Do I think women should be able to get an abortion? Yes but I don't necessarily agree with it. Sometimes it's a necessary procedure, would you rather a child grow up with the mental trauma of not being wanted (this can happen weather the child is adopted or not) or wait for when that woman is ready for a child? Or what if the child goes hungry or gets sick because the mother made a mistake and can't support that child at the moment?

In short no one is really pro abortion. We are pro choice because it is what gives a woman the most options when faced with that decision.

Aside from that the radical Christian right has no grounds to say "boo hoo we want pro life policies" after helping elect someone to office for two terms who is responsible for the death of thousands of soldiers and hundreds of thousands of civilians.Tiefster
1. No one is pro-abortion, they're just pro-choice. So when Bush wants to allow the military to torture prisoners at Guantanamo, is he pro-torture or pro-choice? If I say that businesses should be able to not hire blacks if they don't want to, Am I pro-discrimination or pro-choice? 2. As for the war, there is a difference between war and abortion. Abortion has killed 50 million prenatal American children, and Abortion is an intrinsic evil, whereas war is oftentimes a regretable necessity.
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You don't know what you're talking about.

But then again neither do many religious people in highly emotional states.

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I know exactly what I'm talking about: The head of Planned Parenthood is making a fool out of herself by alleging that a "vast majority" of Catholics support Obama and Planned Parenthood, when the facts speak otherwise.
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[QUOTE="JoeRatz16"][QUOTE="joeytentz"]

Sorry, there is no proof god exists. Only science.

Enjoy your existance, don't worry about ancient Hebrew fables and mid-evil political organizations.

bsman00
there is no proof that proof exists and no, Planned Parenthood is not a mid-evil political organization, just an evil one.

So do you think women should be allowed abortion, if they have beeen raped an become pregnant?

as if they haven't been through enough trauma with the rape and all, now you want them to go through a terrifying and gruesome procedure and become victims of post-abortion syndrome? I guess Brutality is what passes for compassion these days. And people conceived via rape have the same rights as those conceived via any other method.
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Good post, my wife is pregnant with out first child right now (hoping for a boy) and I am hoping to do these things with him when he gets older. CGavin
Oh that's nice. When is the child gonna be born (rough estimate). Good luck. Oh and I've heard that boys are easier to raise then girls, but I guess that's the parents' call. If you want to have save this list, I recommend, you print it or tag this post or something for the future (oh and the same link's also on my blog).