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[QUOTE="XilePrincess"]Truly these people can't be dumb enough not to understand the difference between ABORTION and something that has already died.nocoolnamejim

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[QUOTE="nocoolnamejim"]And now, some news from down in Alabama. (Or, as some people prefer to refer to it, "Hell has a really good college football team!") [quote="Alabama News"] This week, pro-life protestor Joyce Fecteau, 70, was arrested for assault based on an incident alleged to have happened the week of Christmas. A pro-choice protestor told police that Fecteau sprayed her in the face with what Fecteau says is holy water. Fecteau told The Huntsville Times that she was spritzing holy water to cleanse the air of smoke from a pro-choicers sage smudge, and that the pro-choice protestor walked into the spray. ... Pro-choice marchers recalled a particularly painful event last month when a woman whose baby had died en utero was coming to the clinic to have it removed. In an awful coincidence, that was the day, Watters said, when the pro-life demonstrators collected a childrens choir on the sidewalk to sing "Happy Birthday Dead Baby" to anyone driving in. Will had to physically restrain the father, Watters said, nodding to one of the men marching in a pro-choice jacket. "And by the time she walked through them, she was an emotional wreck." nocoolnamejim

We don't know if Fecteau "spritzed" anyone with holy water, she said it was an accident that she was spraying the air to get rid of smoke from a pro-choicer's "sage smudge" whatever that is (is it like an incense that is burned)?

As for the Children's choir, it does seem somewhat of a tasteless thing, though the article doesn't give much information about the incident and what information they do give is only from one source: what Watters and the other unnamed "pro-choicers" said, so we don't have the perspective of the pro-lifers. It is a quite unfortunate coincidence though with baby that diedin utero (I am sure that the pro-lifers would sympathize with that family if they found that out), though maybe that is one reason why it is best for people in that situation to go to somewhere other than an abortion clinic to have the dead baby removed.

Anyway my guess is that the "children's choir" people were small-time, local groups. It does not strike me as sometime that a group such as 40 Days for Life would do.

Truly these people can't be dumb enough not to understand the difference between ABORTION and something that has already died.XilePrincess

And now, some news from down in Alabama. (Or, as some people prefer to refer to it, "Hell has a really good college football team!") [quote="Alabama News"] This week, pro-life protestor Joyce Fecteau, 70, was arrested for assault based on an incident alleged to have happened the week of Christmas. A pro-choice protestor told police that Fecteau sprayed her in the face with what Fecteau says is holy water. Fecteau told The Huntsville Times that she was spritzing holy water to cleanse the air of smoke from a pro-choicers sage smudge, and that the pro-choice protestor walked into the spray. ... Pro-choice marchers recalled a particularly painful event last month when a woman whose baby had died en utero was coming to the clinic to have it removed. In an awful coincidence, that was the day, Watters said, when the pro-life demonstrators collected a childrens choir on the sidewalk to sing "Happy Birthday Dead Baby" to anyone driving in. Will had to physically restrain the father, Watters said, nodding to one of the men marching in a pro-choice jacket. "And by the time she walked through them, she was an emotional wreck." nocoolnamejim

We don't know if Fecteau "spritzed" anyone with holy water, she said it was an accident that she was spraying the air to get rid of smoke from a pro-choicer's "sage smudge" whatever that is (is it like an incense that is burned)?

As for the Children's choir, it does seem somewhat of a tasteless thing, though the article doesn't give much information about the incident and what information they do give is only from one source: what Watters and the other unnamed "pro-choicers" said, so we don't have the perspective of the pro-lifers. It is a quite unfortunate coincidence though with baby that diedin utero (I am sure that the pro-lifers would sympathize with that family if they found that out), though maybe that is one reason why it is best for people in that situation to go to somewhere other than an abortion clinic to have the dead baby removed.

Anyway my guess is that the "children's choir" people were small-time, local groups. It does not strike me as sometime that a group such as 40 Days for Life would do.

Dude...his entire customer base is filled with liberals. He calls a liberal president a fascist and denies climate change exists. If he goes out of business, it's the invisible hand at work slapping him across the face for being too damned stupid to know to just keep his mouth shut and let his customer base keep paying exorbitant fees for overpriced commodity items. nocoolnamejim

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The Honorable Joseph Biden

Hell no

Chutebox

Anyways I do think he is influential, though he wasn't able to dissuade Obama against pushing the HHS mandate.

At least Biden did, in his debate with Paul Ryan, acknowledge that he accepts the Church's belief that human life starts at conception, though with rather weak logic he unfortunately went on to support legalized abortion. The odd thing though is that Biden essentially said he believes abortion ends a human life but doesn't want to "impose" that belief on others, yet if he is so opposed to "imposing" beliefs on others he should be outspokenly critical of the Individual Mandate in Obamacare and he should especially be very outspoken agains the HHS mandate which not only imposes on others, but it actually requires them to cover things that not only go against their beliefs, but that also go against Biden's beliefs (since Biden believes life starts at conception, than the logical extension of that belief is that he would morally oppose abortifacient drugs and devices such as the Morning After Pill and Intra-uterine devices that can end a life after conception, and thus he should oppose any policy that would require employers to provide cover of those things in their health-care plans or that would generally promote those pills/devices and/or make them more widely available or easily obtainable).

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[QUOTE="JoeRatz16"] 16 seems a bit young though, 18 seems better for a law.

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I don't see why 18 is a better age than 16. Below 16 there are concerns but the ages between 16 and 18 don't matter much.

[QUOTE="JoeRatz16"]

[QUOTE="toast_burner"]It used to be 21 but they changed it to 16 13 years ago.

toast_burner

I don't see why 18 is a better age than 16. Below 16 there are concerns but the ages between 16 and 18 don't matter much.

The Honorable Joseph Biden

Hell no

Chutebox

One criticism I might have is that some of these picks, particularly Ryan and Biden may be influential only in America and not so much in the wider world, though that is debatable.