[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]Mk...don't think many people will be voting based on abortion stances this election. sSubZerOo

1. TC's source is obviously biased

2. The survey size is small, 1,000 people is hardly a good barometer to judge some 60 millions by.

3. Assuming this study is accurate, It says 46% of Catholics support Obama (with 12% undecided, which is enough to potentially give the majority to Romney). If 46% of Catholics do support Obama, that is quite a decline from the 54% of Catholics who voted for Obama in 2008 according to exit polls.

4. Various other polls have found majorities of Catholics supporting banning abortion:

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An October 2008 poll conducted by Marist College found 63 percent of Catholics say they oppose all abortions, all abortions except to save the mothers life, or all abortions except to save the mothers life or in cases of rape or incest.

That puts nearly two-thirds of Catholics favoring a pro-life position opposing about 98 percent of all abortions, according to Alan Guttmacher Institute information about when abortions are done.

Breaking down the polling data further, 72 percent of practicing Catholics take one of the three pro-life positions opposing all or almost all abortions as do 47 percent of non-practicing Catholics.

Looking at another poll, a September 2008 survey conducted by the National Scientific Survey Center found 78 percent of active Catholics saying abortion is morally wrong along with 66 percent of secular Catholics, who dont attend church services as often.

That poll found 80 percent of active Catholics and 66 percent of secular Catholics saying human life begins at the moment of conception."

In December 2006, a Le Moyne College and Zogby International survey found a majority of Catholics want abortion to be illegal."

[QUOTE="Sajo7"][QUOTE="JoeRatz16"]Also of note Pope Benedict XVI has a 74% approval rating and the bishops of the United States have a 70% approval rating among American Catholics, I bet Biden and Ryan wished they had those approval ratings (then the election would be over if one ticket had that much support).Rhazakna

[QUOTE="JoeRatz16"]Also of note Pope Benedict XVI has a 74% approval rating and the bishops of the United States have a 70% approval rating among American Catholics, I bet Biden and Ryan wished they had those approval ratings (then the election would be over if one ticket had that much support).Sajo7

Well I guess here's something you can say if you want to appear smart. The current election in the United States is the first election in which both major vice-presidential candidates (Joe Biden and Paul Ryan) are Catholic.

Also of note Pope Benedict XVI has a 74% approval rating and the bishops of the United States have a 70% approval rating among American Catholics, I bet Biden and Ryan wished they had those approval ratings (then the election would be over if one ticket had that much support).

wonder what whipassmt thinksMrPraline

Inb4 some chucklehead brings up whip.dave123321

Ohio Governor John Kasich recently signed into law an anti-human trafficking bill that would: 1. protect minor victims of trafficking from being prosecuted, and would send them to treatment instead of prosecuting them 2. Seize assets of convicted traffickers and use that money to create a fund to help the victims 3. increase penalties for human trafficking to a first degree felony with a minimum sentence of 15 years in jail 4. This law would possibly make it a felony for a person to knowingly pay to have sexual relations with a minor

Although this bill is not about abortion Ohio Right to Life has helped push for this law because a lot of times human trafficking victims are forced into prostitution and then are forced to have abortions if they get pregnant so that their pimps can get them back on the street quicker.

What do you guys think. I think this is a good law, all the provisions of it that I know of are reasonable.

[QUOTE="JoeRatz16"]

to be fair Obama did donate a lot of money to charity (I think about 20% of his income), mostly to groups that help wounded soldiers (which I imagine is somewhat his duty considering that he is the commander in chief, and thus he should be solicitous for the good of his soldiers), although I think he also donated to the United Negro Fund (college scholarships for black kids).

kingkong0124

"Thomas More Society attorneys have demanded that the Lake County Fair reverse its rejection of booth applications from Lake County Right to Life and Peters Net, an initiative promoting Lake County Catholic churches.

The Society claims that the Fairs rejection of the groups is based on their respective religious messages, including the promotion of the Catholic Church and Church teaching by Peters Net and the religiously motivated pro-life message and use of a prenatal development display including life size fetal models used by Lake County Right to Life in its Fair booth for the last 37 years.

The actions of the Lake County Fair Association violate the Illinois Human Rights Act, Title II of the federal Civil Rights Act, and the Fairs own stated policy of nondiscrimation, said attorney Peter Breen, Executive Director and Legal Counsel for the Thomas More Society, who is representing both groups."

http://www.lifenews.com/2012/06/27/chicago-pro-life-group-prohibited-from-running-fair-booth/

Is this legal? Do you think the two groups were discriminated against due to their religious or political beliefs?