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#1 KC_Hokie
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[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]

[QUOTE="deeliman"] If he moves valuable military assets in bunkers, he can't use them against the rebels. And what are they planning on targeting then if not his conventional army?Master_Live

So he will move his chemical weapons out of bunkers AFTER the stupid little symbolic missile strike then use them. Might even use them on Israel, Jordan, etc. as retaliation.

That doesn't matter since they aren't planning to directly hit the stash of chemical weapons.

The missiles are being moved around to under ground bunkers and under overpasses ,etc. That's why the attacks are going to be more symbolic than anything and a complete waste of money.
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[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]

[QUOTE="deeliman"] If he moves valuable military assets in bunkers, he can't use them against the rebels. And what are they planning on targeting then if not his conventional army?deeliman

So he will move his chemical weapons out of bunkers AFTER the stupid little symbolic missile strike then use them. Might even use them on Israel, Jordan, etc. as retaliation.

And there are no plans to attack his conventional military. They might go after command and control centers but those either have redundancy or can be quickly replaced.

Obama's strike will be symbolic at best and Syria, Iran and Russia will love the propaganda that they survived Obama's stupid little strike.

Oh, so Obama has shared his plan with you? Isn't that neat.

Administration officials have already discussed what they aren't willing to do. And targeting his conventional military is highly unlikely.
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But since I know many of the people here didn't bother to watch it here is the gist:

 

  • "Preserving" an international norm of not ussing chemical weapons, Secretary Kerry noted that even countries like Russia and Iran have sign that treaty.
  • Preserving the crediility of the US, basically saying that Obama made a red line and would look like an idiot if the US doesn't act.
  • Degrading the chemical weapon capability of Assad (they mentioned this like a 100).
  • Sending a message to Iran that use or development of WMD is unnanceptable and will be enforce by force if necessary.
  • No boots on the ground.
  • Except for Special force/cover ops ect.
  • General Dempsey repeatedly stated the fact that of waiting for Congressional approval won't affect the ability of the US military of degrading Assad' stash of chemical weapons.
  • Arms and training for "vetted" or moderate rebels force.
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Those are all some of the dumbest. broadest reasons to get involved in a conflict that has nothing to do with us.
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[QUOTE="Person0"][QUOTE="KC_Hokie"][QUOTE="deeliman"] That would put him in a weak position though.

How does moving around stuff and putting them in bunkers temporarily hurt him? They aren't even planning on targeting his conventional military.

The plan is taking out methods of delivery like planes and artillery...

Highly doubt we go after his air force and artillery. They've only discussed certain missiles that can carry those weapons. And so they've just been moved around temporarily.
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[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"][QUOTE="deeliman"] That would put him in a weak position though.deeliman
How does moving around stuff and putting them in bunkers temporarily hurt him? They aren't even planning on targeting his conventional military.

If he moves valuable military assets in bunkers, he can't use them against the rebels. And what are they planning on targeting then if not his conventional army?

So he will move his chemical weapons out of bunkers AFTER the stupid little symbolic missile strike then use them. Might even use them on Israel, Jordan, etc. as retaliation.

And there are no plans to attack his conventional military. They might go after command and control centers but those either have redundancy or can be quickly replaced.

Obama's strike will be symbolic at best and Syria, Iran and Russia will love the propaganda that they survived Obama's stupid little strike.

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If you listened to the hearing, which went about for more than 2 hours, they stated repeatedly what supposedly the US is to gain from an attack on Syria. Master_Live
They talked a lot, as usual, and gave a piss poor answer of what we gain.
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[QUOTE="BossPerson"]you personally, nothing Rattlesnake_8

 

okay....

Actually you will probably get higher taxes.. and they might get some oil and import it.. raising the cost of gas to cover the costs.

Basically the only ones to benefit domestically from a strike are the tomahawk missile makers.
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[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]Absolutely nothing. And Assad has had nearly two weeks to move around anything critical he doesn't want bombed.deeliman
That would put him in a weak position though.

How does moving around stuff and putting them in bunkers temporarily hurt him? They aren't even planning on targeting his conventional military.
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Absolutely nothing. And Assad has had nearly two weeks to move around anything critical he doesn't want bombed.
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[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"][QUOTE="GazaAli"]I really don't think what I'm saying here is that hard to grasp. If you don't agree with the beliefs of some people its ok, just don't rub it in their faces that's all. This works both ways, for the religious and nonreligious and for any two parties disagreeing on something that is completely intellectual, philosophical or spiritual.GazaAli
And all you have to do is turn away from that protest or parade or whatever. That's the point. Ignore speech you don't like or speak out against it.

I'd do that no problem, but it seems some other people are unable to for some reason. You won't be able to make these people disappear and it would be dangerous to let such tension and hostility build up in a society, it serves no purpose. Was it that important for these people to do what they did? How would you feel if I marched the streets of the U.S wearing a fake explosive belt while rubbing the U.S constitution against my balls?

Well when you crack down on those protests you get violence and drive them underground often resulting in further violence. When you tolerate speech and religion you disagree with the results are peaceful.

Pretty simple.