[QUOTE="Kalias"]

I'm confused. Just because there is an inferior console that can't run the game, ps3 owners are going to have their game downgraded for the sake of this inferior console.

 

Last gen, I admit, the ps2 limited gta3's potential.. but this gen the 360 is going to be lowering the standard of all multiplat games just because they have to mirror both versions as "equal"..

 

people might use multiplat games like fear as an example of 360 outshining the ps3 counter-part but you have to remember it took some time for developers to grasp ps2's potential with titles like ff12, shadow of col, god of war1-2, and other later releases easily equaling graphics of the original xbox. Oblivion is already a great example of a developer really showing that a little time here and there will surely guarantee a better version.

 

I expect many other multiplats to follow such as Mercenaries 2 (which is using the ps3 as its primary console) and possibly Unreal 3 (though i doubt since epic has far more experience with the pc-friendly architecture of the 360.. but i ain't ruling out the possibilities).

 

360 fanboys are going to come with the same ol' argument of blu-ray and standardized hdd as unneccessary in the near future. however, the recent statements of r* are just signs of more developers speaking out against the limits emposed this gen by the 360.

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I absolutely love how cows are conveniently ignoring the part of the article where they say that both the 360 and PS3 are providing their fair share of challenges to develop for.

the ps3 problem he did not talk about. most likely so all we can do is assume what the problem is. it could be anything, something very simple or trivial for that matter.  The 360 difficulties he actually mentioned.

i believe the ps3 difficulties is mostly to do with its complicated architecture to get around like sakaguchi stated "the ps3 is tricky" lol. if it were exclusive tho, all there recourses would be in ps3's direction and would have easier time developing.

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[QUOTE="Kalias"]the recent statements of r* are just signs of more developers speaking out against the limits emposed this gen by the 360.TerryBenedict

We're already seeing complaints of limitations. We aren't even done with Year 2 yet of the console's lifespan. Not a good sign.

yup 360 is an awesome system imo. many people will view me as a sony fanboy. but the 360 just seems like a short-term investment. im pretty sure we will see a new xbox by 2010.

the investment becomes even shorter when you have the red rings poping up every few months.

Not that it's necessarily a bad thing.

I'm not a big fan of Sony's 10 yr idea either.

I think 4-5 years is a good timetable for new consoles to be released. Although we may see an earlier release if game developers continue to complain about limitations.

True. i feel 7 years is reasonable time table for this gen (for the ps3, that is). but hey, at least you know your 600 is well spent in the long-term aspect. of course not much is out now, but the next couple of months are looking great for sony with Home, warhawk, ninja gaiden, eye toy, lair, heavenly sword. all this in the next couple of months.  

I encourage all PS3 owners to not buy GTA4. That will surely teach Rockstar a lesson.DaysAirlines

r* is a great developer. i know it wont be the best it were soley on the ps3, but nevertheless we all know the game is going to own no matter what limitations. 

wait a sec, how did the ps2 limit the gta3 experience?. And again may i borrow your crystal ball?Led_poison

it didnt limit. im trying to say if it was a xbox exclusive from ground up. we might have seen a slightly advanced game in terms of technicalities.

then again no1 really complained against gta3, just trying to point out.. the potential was there for even more. we all know that, im more on sony's side and i admit that. 

[QUOTE="Kalias"]the recent statements of r* are just signs of more developers speaking out against the limits emposed this gen by the 360.TerryBenedict

We're already seeing complaints of limitations. We aren't even done with Year 2 yet of the console's lifespan. Not a good sign.

yup 360 is an awesome system imo. many people will view me as a sony fanboy. but the 360 just seems like a short-term investment. im pretty sure we will see a new xbox by 2010.

the investment becomes even shorter when you have the red rings poping up every few months. 

I'm confused. Just because there is an inferior console that can't run the game, ps3 owners are going to have their game downgraded for the sake of this inferior console.

Last gen, I admit, the ps2 limited gta3's potential.. but this gen the 360 is going to be lowering the standard of all multiplat games just because they have to mirror both versions as "equal"..

people might use multiplat games like fear as an example of 360 outshining the ps3 counter-part but you have to remember it took some time for developers to grasp ps2's potential with titles like ff12, shadow of col, god of war1-2, and other later releases easily equaling graphics of the original xbox. Oblivion is already a great example of a developer really showing that a little time here and there will surely guarantee a better version.

I expect many other multiplats to follow such as Mercenaries 2 (which is using the ps3 as its primary console) and possibly Unreal 3 (though i doubt since epic has far more experience with the pc-friendly architecture of the 360.. but i ain't ruling out the possibilities).

360 fanboys are going to come with the same ol' argument of blu-ray and standardized hdd as unneccessary in the near future. however, the recent statements of r* are just signs of more developers speaking out against the limits emposed this gen by the 360.

My friend just got the red ring of death, i don't want to ignite any wars, i was just wondering if anybody had any information they could link me to, we're trying to find the rate of failure and such.LiquidAjax

anywhere between 100% and 100%.

i love it when cows whine about fawlty hardware -- just more self ownage for them :) because the PS2 did oh so crappy with its numerous failures and 2 month repair cycle, lmao.

get some sleep trolls.

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lol lems. trying to defend their precious m$. haha cant wait till the ones that are defending their beloved m$ actually get hardware failures of their own. its bound to happen, its just a matter of when..