[QUOTE="Kell_the_Gamer"]

[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

Your opening line for a start. More people buy a preferred console due to price and friends on the platform over power and features

seanmcloughlin

"Your opening line" is not a valid arguement, what ABOUT my openng line?

We're not 'most people', we are avid gamers who also take the time to discuss our hobbies on gaming forums such as this. Dismissing arguments that they are just 'horseshit' devalues oppossing viewpoints from your own biased and promotes more sh*tposting of two line messages that are more or less that "your game sucks my is better".

If your arguement is "We don't stand a chance against the masses because they outnumber us" that is a fairand true statment. It is also admitting you are a pleb that who isn't even going to try and I'd had expected something better from someone with a DArk Soul's avatar, a game with a rep for being hard and require willpower to pull through in the face of overwealming odds.

To put more words in your mouth since you have already dismiss my view as 'horseshit' anyway, you argumejnt is that we shouldn't care becaus video games aren't as important as world politcs., and that be even suggesting I play politcs with video games, I obiously do not car about real world politcs and my proites are soley that of gaming. You are wrong on both fronts. Even if video games aren't the most important thing ever that doesn't mean they aren't worthy of discussions of this level. And since this is a gaming forum we will discuss gaming and its problems, not that buying second hand sale doesn't matter because the opressing reign of North Koera is causing many people to suffer.

wow, so many assumptions :?

You mean those rumors that are not confirmed yet?TigerSuperman

[QUOTE="Kell_the_Gamer"]

 This is serious matter, please if you find a flaw in the message try to construct more meaningful criticism that it is 'horse shit'. 

seanmcloughlin

Your opening line for a start. More people buy a preferred console due to price and friends on the platform over power and features

"Your opening line" is not a valid arguement, what ABOUT my openng line?

We're not 'most people', we are avid gamers who also take the time to discuss our hobbies on gaming forums such as this. Dismissing arguments that they are just 'horseshit' devalues oppossing viewpoints from your own biased and promotes more sh*tposting of two line messages that are more or less that "your game sucks my is better".

If your arguement is "We don't stand a chance against the masses because they outnumber us" that is a fairand true statment. It is also admitting you are a pleb that who isn't even going to try and I'd had expected something better from someone with a DArk Soul's avatar, a game with a rep for being hard and require willpower to pull through in the face of overwealming odds.

To put more words in your mouth since you have already dismiss my view as 'horseshit' anyway, you argumejnt is that we shouldn't care becaus video games aren't as important as world politcs., and that be even suggesting I play politcs with video games, I obiously do not car about real world politcs and my proites are soley that of gaming. You are wrong on both fronts. Even if video games aren't the most important thing ever that doesn't mean they aren't worthy of discussions of this level. And since this is a gaming forum we will discuss gaming and its problems, not that buying second hand sale doesn't matter because the opressing reign of North Koera is causing many people to suffer.

This thread is horse shit

seanmcloughlin

if it has games i want to play i buy it,if not i don't.

how complex do you dudes have to make things.

now this is about individual rights and the coming of the orwellian future and the march of progress and oh god oh god what about the children?

geeze folks, calm down already.

Riverwolf007

Its okay to buy exclusive on the Xbox one, but due to the hardware difference it maybe the case that games will play better on the PS4 anyway.

The past generations all the players were the same in principle; buy their console which they each claimed was the most powerful and had the coolest features. They had different approaches but on the bottom line everything was the same. In this generation you are not just buying a console, you are making a vote towards the future of how our humble hobby will work.

Sony offers free online play, an open digital marketplace that lets indie developers do what they want, and fair treatment for all publishers regardless if they are part of EA or an independent developer.

Nintendo is a humble company that is not even competing to wipe out their competition, they just want to be. They support innovation above all else. Nintendo also has free online play and equal treatment for developers.

Microsoft is a harden veteran of technology, anything they try you can be sure will be done well and professionally. Unfortunately they charge for not only online pay, to use other services that you already pay for (Netflix and Hulu). They favor big companies and have outrageous fees on indie gamers that just want to patch their games.

For this coming generation the game has change; this is consumer rights vs Microsoft. This is going to hurt, Microsoft has sweet hardware, the best online, the best controller, and great games,  but unfortunately  this really is serious business this time. Microsoft are in bed with EA and Activison, who all together support literally every anti-consumer rights practice that exists in gaming.

Ideally, what we should do is completely skip on the Xbox One and all its offerings. This, however, is a painful route that will require tremendous willpower and is not realistic for most of us. Instead; buy the Xbox One used, keep their sales as low as possible. If you do not play multiplayer then do not get Gold or support in anyway, even refuse free temporary membership, show it no interest. And finally, buy all multi-platform games on a different system. Resist the urge to give into temporary exclusives, it will only be a short term gain (a relief of your impatience) for a long term loss of something greater (your rights).

The ultimate goal is to make the Xbox One a failure in the hope for 1 of 2 preferable outcomes;

1)      Microsoft will start to adapt more consumer friendly trends, improving the quality of gaming standards for everyone.

2)      Microsoft leaves gaming and all future companies take notes of what not to do from them.

If we all support each other and use all of our strength to pull through we can win! Game on!

We can't write them off just yet they have a lot to show at E3.

And even if they don't have anything to show you know they'll make a huge profit just from temporary exclusive DLC from idotic americans.

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[QUOTE="shawn30"] Cows Gonna Cow :)kingtito

[QUOTE="Kell_the_Gamer"]

Why am I the only who cares about lack of BC? :cry:

RotaryRX7

You aren't. It's just that there's nothing we can do about it.

http://www.oxm.co.uk/54419/microsoft-xbox-one-reveal-probably-didnt-show-as-many-games-as-we-should-have/

Microsoft's Aaron Greenburg has admitted the company didn't show its full gaming lineup at the Xbox reveal event, but says it'll blow you away at E3.

"From a first party standpoint we're continuing to be heavily invested in gaming. We probably right now aren't talking about it maybe as much as we should, because we're talking so much about what's new," he told OXM at the Microsoft campus earlier this month.

Floppy_Jim