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[QUOTE="LOXO7"][QUOTE="Abbeten"] Glossing over the fact that people being cripplingly poor is bad for the nation as a whole and not just for the people who are poor, the social safety net is technically available to everyone. It's there as a fallback to anyone who comes down on hard times and has need of it, and the laws don't specifically bar large portions of the population from ever having access to it. From a legal perspective it's totally constitutional.white_wolf922

No, it's not. The people grant these privileges to the government not the other way around. The government can only do what is written in the Constitution. The people don't have to worry about this because they hold the power. Amendment nine says not all rights have been listed in the Constitution. Amendment ten says the government can't assume powers. If it's not written down it doesn't have the power to do it. Congress made requirements in order to get welfare. Did the people permit this? No. That's taking promote the general welfare, crossing out the tenth, then specifying in saying anyone who comes down on hard times can use it. Not everyone. This is totally constitutional? Picking and choosing which privileges and amendments to follow? Definitely. It has been this way for hundreds of years now. Still, it doesn't make it right.

Have you ever studied the Constitution? The Supreme Court has never held that the government can only do what is specifically written in the Constitution. See the doctrine of Implied Powers and McCulloch V Maryland. Also check out the Commerce Clause which the Supreme Court has interpreted very broadly when it comes to Congresses's powers.

Hmm. We the People of the United States... Article. 3. Section. 1. The judicial Power of the United States, shall be vested in one supreme Court. Who grants this privilege by saying shall? Sh*t! The people also grant a privilege to the supreme court as well. What does this mean? Government power is granted as a privilege by the people. There is an idea out there that the government grants the people privileges. This is back*ss backwards.
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#2 LOXO7
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[QUOTE="LOXO7"][QUOTE="worlock77"]

Something not being specifically stated in the Constitution does not make it unconstitutional.

white_wolf922

Refer to amendment IX and then to X.

What do either of those have to do with your point? If anything the 9th disproves your point since it refers to rights not specially stated in the Constitution.

You are saying the government and congress has rights?! Nine does not disprove my point. Rights are only for the people. He was talking about since it's not in the Constitution then congress has no problem making up new laws. Which it is unconstitutional, because nine is for people, and ten is for the government not being allowed to make up new laws because they are not specifically written in the Constitution. Not every right is written for the people in the Constitution (amendment 9). Every privilege is written in the Constitution for the government (amendment 10).
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[QUOTE="Abbeten"][QUOTE="LOXO7"][QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"] Well it is. Only 4.4 million people are actually on welfare. By far, the vast majority of government aid goes to senior citizens, the disabled and the working poor. Are these people freeloaders? As a percentage of the US population, there are very few able bodied people who are actually just sitting on their couches collecting checks from the government.

This is unconstitutional to call this welfare because it is not general welfare. General meaning for everyone. Medicare/medicaid is not general. Food stamps are not general. This is specific welfare. Not for everybody. We the People of the United States, promote the specific welfare? We the People are an ignorant people. The government has "power" to enslave us because we are too ignorant to know otherwise. We deserve this.

Glossing over the fact that people being cripplingly poor is bad for the nation as a whole and not just for the people who are poor, the social safety net is technically available to everyone. It's there as a fallback to anyone who comes down on hard times and has need of it, and the laws don't specifically bar large portions of the population from ever having access to it. From a legal perspective it's totally constitutional.

No, it's not. The people grant these privileges to the government not the other way around. The government can only do what is written in the Constitution. The people don't have to worry about this because they hold the power. Amendment nine says not all rights have been listed in the Constitution. Amendment ten says the government can't assume powers. If it's not written down it doesn't have the power to do it. Congress made requirements in order to get welfare. Did the people permit this? No. That's taking promote the general welfare, crossing out the tenth, then specifying in saying anyone who comes down on hard times can use it. Not everyone. This is totally constitutional? Picking and choosing which privileges and amendments to follow? Definitely. It has been this way for hundreds of years now. Still, it doesn't make it right.
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How can anyone call that pos a film? Did anyone see the video? Then you will realize you've just been punk'd by the media.
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#5 LOXO7
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I hear a belief in the Mormon faith is to give 10 percent of your earnings to the poor or to the church.

[QUOTE="Franklinstein"]It seems to me like Romney's role in this whole thing is to lose.The_Last_Ride
Yeah, the guy is a mess, this is coming from a european

Because some people think it's better to be not blamed for the economic collapse that is coming.

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[QUOTE="LOXO7"][QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"] Well it is. Only 4.4 million people are actually on welfare. By far, the vast majority of government aid goes to senior citizens, the disabled and the working poor. Are these people freeloaders? As a percentage of the US population, there are very few able bodied people who are actually just sitting on their couches collecting checks from the government. worlock77

This is unconstitutional to call this welfare because it is not general welfare. General meaning for everyone. Medicare/medicaid is not general. Food stamps are not general. This is specific welfare. Not for everybody. We the People of the United States, promote the specific welfare? We the People are an ignorant people. The government has "power" to enslave us because we are too ignorant to know otherwise. We deserve this.

Something not being specifically stated in the Constitution does not make it unconstitutional.

Refer to amendment IX and then to X.
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I think the GOP has finally turned into a parody of itself with this.

I'm not saying anything against Republicans or those who are against Obama, those are their personal beliefs, but these anti Obama ads are the dumbest things I've ever seen, especially since there's 0 chance of Romney winning the election at this point and its just blatant attack ads that split the country further.

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It's just propaganda. I don't need a video to tell me how to think about the president. I have his campaign promises and his history in office. And they all point forward away from the Constitution.
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#9 LOXO7
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[QUOTE="Gen007"]

we really dont have a choice with the way energy demand is going up.

BiancaDK

and when we run out of uranium and plutonium? will we have a choice then?

Nuclear thorium.

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#10 LOXO7
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[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"]So 1.4% of the population. -Sun_Tzu-

I seriously doubt it's that low.

Well it is. Only 4.4 million people are actually on welfare. By far, the vast majority of government aid goes to senior citizens, the disabled and the working poor. Are these people freeloaders? As a percentage of the US population, there are very few able bodied people who are actually just sitting on their couches collecting checks from the government.

This is unconstitutional to call this welfare because it is not general welfare. General meaning for everyone. Medicare/medicaid is not general. Food stamps are not general. This is specific welfare. Not for everybody. We the People of the United States, promote the specific welfare? We the People are an ignorant people. The government has "power" to enslave us because we are too ignorant to know otherwise. We deserve this.