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#1  Edited By LOXO7
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This looks really bad. It must look better on phones though.

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[QUOTE="LOXO7"][QUOTE="Ace6301"] And as we know the constitution has never, ever been wrong or needed to be changed in any way. Also that anything not explicitly mentioned in it is verboten.Ace6301
It's not very big, which means that government can't do a whole lot. But our Constitution is only for government, so it really doesn't matter how right or wrong it is. It's not for people. You need not worry. They did change our republic by adding some unconstitutional freedom removing amendments. After amendment 14 the country unofficially became an oligarchy where the minority government rules the people.

Last I checked if something affects something that affects you then it still affects you.

I think slaves may also differ on your assessment of it not mattering how right or wrong it is.

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."

Slaves don't know how to read.

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1. Article 1, section 8

"The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes, duties, imposts and excises, to pay the debts and provide for the common defense and general welfare of the United States"

Amendment X: "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people."

But it 'is' delegated to the United States by the Constitution.

[QUOTE="legal-dictionary-com"]United States v. Butler, 56 S. Ct. 312, 297 U.S. 1, 80 L. Ed. 477 (1936),

"The U.S. Supreme Court invalidated a federal agricultural spending program because a specific congressional power over agricultural production appeared nowhere in the Constitution. According to the Court in Butler, the spending program invaded a right reserved to the states by the Tenth Amendment.

Though the Court decided that Butler was consistent with Madison's philosophy of limited federal government, it adopted Hamilton's interpretation of the General Welfare Clause, which gave Congress broad powers to spend federal money.It also established that determination of the general welfare would be left to the discretion of Congress..."

Congress appropriates money for a seemingly endless number of national interests, ranging from federal courts, policing, imprisonment, and national security to social programs, environmental protection, and education. No federal court has struck down a spending program on the ground that it failed to promote the general welfare. However, federal spending programs have been struck down on other constitutional grounds. -http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/General+Welfare

Inconsistancy

2. The constitution was written some time ago, by fallible men, and some we'd consider immoral by a modern standard.
3. Any insinuation that we should 'not' have a public education system is pure idiocy.
4. When citing law, you should consider quoting it. 

It doesn't give broad powers.  It gives them power to spend collected taxes to pay for everyones welfare(.)  Not just a certain type of people.  How is it honest to determine that the word general means broad welfare when welfare is specifically enough not to die?

Also the enforcers of our law is the Judaical not Congress.  Except it got messed up that way too.  Congress can't determine what our law means (it doesn't have that power), Chief Justice John Marshall made sure that the Judiciary would with his decipher of Article 3 section 2.  He argued that the Supreme Court can decipher what our law means.  That's good for you and bad for me.  Because how am I to cite law when the thought is the Supreme Court is the end all be all of authority?

No federal court has struck down a spendingprogram because of the Federalist John Marshall and of the obvious reason spending from collection of taxes.  Isn't the time of your cite interesting?  It was in the age of the progressive era.  The depression was government's incentive to assume a lot of authority.  Supreme Court rulings in general are entertaining.

2. Our Constitution was written for us to control our government, but our government uses it to control us, with the help of ignorance. 

3. People aren't stupid they just don't know the reason of a constitution.  Many of them say our country is a democracy or thinking that they are precise a democracy republic.  First a democracy is a type of government and a republic is another.  How do they come to this conclusion?  The part of democracy in our republic is the election of officials.  Their purpose is to follow our LAW.  That part is politically left out.  They dictate our freedom.

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[QUOTE="LOXO7"]Public schools are not in our Constitution.Ace6301
And as we know the constitution has never, ever been wrong or needed to be changed in any way. Also that anything not explicitly mentioned in it is verboten.

It's not very big, which means that government can't do a whole lot. But our Constitution is only for government, so it really doesn't matter how right or wrong it is. It's not for people. You need not worry. They did change our republic by adding some unconstitutional freedom removing amendments. After amendment 14 the country unofficially became an oligarchy where the minority government rules the people.
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[QUOTE="LOXO7"] I guess we have different definitions of unconstitutional.Inconsistancy
Public schools are not protected, nor prohibited, in the constitution. That means you may create law on them, so long as it doesn't violate the constitution.

You can't understand our Constitution without first knowing, ordain. The US government exists because our law exists. We set the precedent. Government has power from us. Constitutions are orders from the people to the government.

Congress has limited powers. If it didn't, what's the point in listing them? Congress has the power to create laws to help fulfill the specified, listed, powers. Congress can create law for more government as our Constitution is only for government. It's prohibited to create not specified power outside of it. ::coughtenthamendmentcough::

Congress doesn't have the constitutional authority to create the Department of Education.  It doesn't get much difficult than this.

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Then it's a good thing the world isn't under a global government. The United States looks out for numero uno.
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[QUOTE="LOXO7"]Public schools are not in our Constitution.HoolaHoopMan
Trolololol

I guess we have different definitions of unconstitutional.
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[QUOTE="LOXO7"]Public schools are not in our Constitution.Makhaidos
Neither are public roads. Surprise: the government has functions not explicitly outlined by a 230-year-old piece of paper.

Neither government rules over people. It's not paper. You don't know what law is. It's literal. Not the living breathing existence of life that can be used figuratively at any whim of a politician. Baaaahhh
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He told on you to get something out of it. Entitled America.
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How do you americans live with such a country? its run by total idiots who spend billions like its nothing. the republicans and democrats dont work together, instead they fight against eachother... while both of them are wrong. you guys are losing your rights day by day... atleast 40% of you dont pay taxes, and 1% has more money than the other 99. it has the highest prison population per capita... the list goes on and on

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