Maybe borderline AAA.
Ill hype 8.9-9.1

Ok... so I know that exclusive titles are the fad right now, and that Sony/MS fanboys throw a fit about exclusive titles.

However I want to point out an annoyance: When a game is slated as 360 exclusive... and then later revealed for PC as well... Sony fanboys don't get a bonus to their exclusive list by pointing out that the game is no longer 360 exclusive...

 

here's why:

Microsoft owns Xbox. Fact. Microsoft owns Windows. Fact. Just because a game is also on PC as well as 360, does not negate the fact that the game is MICROSOFT EXCLUSIVE (bring up games on Macintoshs and I'll counter to say that those are released much later than the Windows versions).

So please. If you are a Sony fanboy, and you see that a game is 360 exclusive but also on the PC, take the time to realize that it's a bonus to Microsoft's side... and not Sony. Because in the end, you're still lacking a exclusive :).

RedDaemon

But the gamesthat get ported to PC from xbox usually get ported much later anyway. Self contradiction much 

But if the market becomes flooded with casuals there will be no motivation for non casual games to be made

If that occurs then the market would be flooded with casual games. People would get sick of them all before long and hardcore games would re-emerge not long after. During this time though Hardcore games will still be produced. Nintendo would not let their hardcore franchises die and they would not let down their hardcore fanbase.

[QUOTE="Lasden"][QUOTE="kamuix"]

[QUOTE="Lasden"]Here is something for you to think about. As you said the Wii has been out for less than a year. When is one of the best times to release a game for a console? At launch of course. Now when did developers first gain interest in the Wii? That would be E3 06. Not a year even before the launch of the Wii. Now what takes longer to develope? An incredibly deep game with an epicstory? Or a small simple game which is easy to pick up? The hardcore games a coming give them time to be released. Companies are not going to abandon their current majority of the industry which is the hardcore gamers.kamuix

See but thats exactly my point...like i said in my first post there will be epic games on the wii but the majority of companies just seem to be releasing ports on the system. its true most developers didnt have interest in the wii b4 E3 but one of nintendo's selling points for the wii was that developers will have an easy time developing for it compared to the 360 and ps3 because its architecture is close to the gamecubes. games on the 360 or ps3 for that matter should take more time to develop but look at GRAW 2, its released less than a year from the original. my point is while there will be hardcore games...compare the ratio of hardcore games on the wii and those being realeased in the coming months to the number of casual games on it and being released in the coming months

Umm then why are you complaining. You lose nothing from there being more casual orientated games. In fact at this rate you will probably get more hardcore games too. Some of those casuals are bound to become hardcore which means more of a market for such games. Which means more of those games. There is absoloutly nothing bad happening here.

casual gamers will want more casual games...they dont want complex games like God of War...while u may say GOW is not complex they may think so. i cant figure how else to explain it to u. back in the snes days there was nothing like a hardcore game or a casual game. either u were a gamer or you were not. but games have gotten so much more complex now that "casual gamers" are casual because they dont want or have time to play hardcore games". and playing wii sports will not transition a casual gamer to suddenly playing a game like halo 3. they will want more wii sports like games.

Ill put it into a nice simple statement for you.
More casuals DOES NOT equal less hardcore gamers!

Some of those casuals will become hardcore gamers.
So
More Casuals would equal more hardcore gamers.
That would mean more of both types of games.
Also is your shift key broken or something? Try using it once in awhile.

[QUOTE="Lasden"]Here is something for you to think about. As you said the Wii has been out for less than a year. When is one of the best times to release a game for a console? At launch of course. Now when did developers first gain interest in the Wii? That would be E3 06. Not a year even before the launch of the Wii. Now what takes longer to develope? An incredibly deep game with an epicstory? Or a small simple game which is easy to pick up? The hardcore games a coming give them time to be released. Companies are not going to abandon their current majority of the industry which is the hardcore gamers.kamuix

See but thats exactly my point...like i said in my first post there will be epic games on the wii but the majority of companies just seem to be releasing ports on the system. its true most developers didnt have interest in the wii b4 E3 but one of nintendo's selling points for the wii was that developers will have an easy time developing for it compared to the 360 and ps3 because its architecture is close to the gamecubes. games on the 360 or ps3 for that matter should take more time to develop but look at GRAW 2, its released less than a year from the original. my point is while there will be hardcore games...compare the ratio of hardcore games on the wii and those being realeased in the coming months to the number of casual games on it and being released in the coming months

Umm then why are you complaining. You lose nothing from there being more casual orientated games. In fact at this rate you will probably get more hardcore games too. Some of those casuals are bound to become hardcore which means more of a market for such games. Which means more of those games. There is absoloutly nothing bad happening here.

"Re-read my statement i said wii games are simple and fun...whereas games like super mario were fun games but they werent games like wii sports which are very simpl"

Sounds like a comparison to me.