You didn't get me right as well. I said new items you actually used. The fishing rod was a nice side quest, but not for long. The lanturn was only important at the beginning. Later on, you used it for halfassed puzzles, which required you to lit the only torch not lit. I used the Hawkeye only once, pretty neat to snipe those blimps from afar at the Sheikah village, but nowhere else. The waterboms, well, you certainly used those more often then the other ones, but are still puzzle-solving keys. With that, I mean they could have been replaced by keys, and the puzzle by a door with a lock. the spinner was just cool in its own temple, but was hardly used outside of it, except literrally as a key. Same goes for the dominion rod.

And I did like the game. You can read my review on that. I just don't like fanboys who give it 10+ without much of a thought. (No, I am not saying you are)

And even if we knew it wouldn't innovate the series, then it still could have been more then this. the only real innovation was the wolf form, which i really liked. Except for those bug hunts in the beginning, those were pretty boring.

I thought the same. Everybody I know and bought a Wii did. But TP wasn't indeed THAT good. I personnally blame the over-hype for that one, though. AND the lack of true innovation. yesyes, the controls, but the only new items we got and actually used were the Ball-'n-chain and the dubbel clawshot. That's 1.5 new item. Not cool.

Hyping is bad, keep that in mind.

Innovation is good, even if it's such a long-running series like Zelda. We, or at least I, don't want 'more of the same', but the same and more. Keep that in mind as well.

On the Wii line-up: my opinion os that there are many, many good games coming. The problem is I that all those games are COMING, and are not allready in the pocket. I only own 4 Wii games; TP, Sonic, Wii Sports/Play. None of them were totally awesome, or not for more then one playthrough.

There are too many games coming in a year or so, which we keep anticipating, to the point where we got so overhyped that the quality game seems like a let-down.

Message to Nintendo: TRANSLATE FASTER!! We need Super Paper Mario and Fire Emblem soon, before this happens.

The name is NiGHTS, not Night. And he appeared on the Saturn, not the Genesis.

That being said, I don't believe at all he will be in Brawl. Indeed, hes cool and all, but IF SEGA let's one of their characters in, I think Sonic would have the higher odds.