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#1 NanoMan88
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[QUOTE="gaming25"][QUOTE="mitu123"] I know, but it's fun to see them think the PS3 will match the PC version in graphics overpraising their console.

Phazevariance

And this has to do with you enjoyment of the game how?

People will enjoy the game but not as much, graphics are important to most gamers for some odd reason. Take Alan Wake on 360, it was enjoyable, and graphcis were great, but because the game ran at subHD levels, people refused to buy it and claimed it hurt their eyes to play... graphics matter no matter how trivial they are to a games enjoyment.

Dont all console games run at subHD?

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#2 NanoMan88
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[QUOTE="Inconsistancy"]

[QUOTE="savagetwinkie"]its about convenience, its the same game, if its more convenient to get a 360 disc, then i'll get that, buying a PC version means having to install it and deal with DRM, steam is the only DD service I'm willing to deal with, i don't want multiple accounts, its portable and works since If i decide wipe my hard drive its still intact on my second hard drive. And I don't like buying PC hard copies because its an inconvenience to install. convenience > graphics, 360 more convenient than PC in this case, 360 > PC savagetwinkie

Convenience wtf, are you seriously saying that, "God forbid I have to go to a different sight, that would be inconvenient"!? And 'and deal with DRM' what's the problem with the DRM? Does it somehow impede your experience, or slow down the installation/boot/stability? Generally, you don't see DRM unless you're pirating something, or if it's intrusive like Ubisoft's has been.

And why are you installing windows so often that you could justify steam as being so vastly more convenient? Are beta testing viruses or something and have to wipe your drive weekly?

Installation, click 'setup.exe' and click next a few times, and then finished, that's inconvenient for you? What is it to you to have to turn on, off and change stations on the radio in a car?

Not to mention, this is a rare case of the PC version really being different from the console version in more than the graphics department, whole game modes and the maps they run on are omitted, as well as having no options for control input.

You can backup the games on a second harddrive wherever you got them from...

I at least get "I have friends on console" or "I don't have an adequate pc". But this makes no sense.

whats it matter to you? its the same game, with slight difference, i'm not big wanker that needs to feel entitled because i have a slightly sharper experience, about 30 seconds after the wow factor has ended from the graphics i get the same amount of enjoyment out of either version of bad company 2, so if playing the game might be subject to when i whipeout my hard drive and reinstall xp, then win7x64, (all the while i'll be playing bf3 on 360) , without steam, i'd have to reinstall, then get the updates, apply the map packs that have come out , on top of updating drivers, and if it weren't for steam, installing other games, i have 130+ games on steam, on a 2tb hard drive, that is convenience, so I've decided since steam works so well and nothing compares to it, why bother supporting anything else, i dont' want to make multiple accounts with other DD services all with credit card details, and so far the only other actual programs like steam amount to a total of games for windows live and origin... why should i bother supporting them?

But its not the same experience since PC has 64 players and larger maps while consoles only have 24 and small maps; then there is the superior gfx which look anything than "slighty" better. While a disk on xbox is the same as a disk on PC.

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#3 NanoMan88
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[QUOTE="edidili"]

"why would anyone expect that console would look the same as PC? if that was the case we would have failed with the PC version"

Exactly. When developers say that we'll make sure that the PC and console versions to be almost the same they don't mean that the console version will magically look amazing. They just mean that we'll not bother with the PC version and it will look the same as the console one.

MrSelf-Destruct

So basically, he's saying that Bethesda will fail with the PC version of Skyrim. :P

Failing to maximize pc features? most defintately; at least they gave mod tools though

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#4 NanoMan88
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[QUOTE="NanoMan88"]

[QUOTE="Birdy09"] 20k players a day isnt strong, not many PC games outside of MMOs are "strong" now.Kickinurass

Also the only thing strong on consoles by your definition is COD and Halo

Halo and CoD absolutely trounce over 20k players a day

Even Halo Wars pushes about 5-10,000 players a day. I'd be surprised if games like L4D and Borderlands weren't doing at least 20k themselves on consoles. It's a complete fallacy that most console communities die off quickly, the only game I remember having a population problem was Shadowrun on the 360, which wasn't all that popular to begin with.

5-10k players is not strong to this dude as for l4d and borderlands im not too sure about those, I know l4d and l4d2 communities are still very alive on pc, not sure how many players though

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#5 NanoMan88
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[QUOTE="savagetwinkie"]

[QUOTE="NanoMan88"]

Wait so does that mean you pass on great games not on steam such as minecraft, starcraft 2, diablo 3 in the future etc? Well I hope you enjoy your 24 players, inferior gfx, small maps, no servers, 60$ a year screaming kids daycare center.

DragonfireXZ95

well i don't like strategy games or click to kill so I'm passing up on everything blizzard has to offer to begin with, i'm not interested in minecraft... so w/e I've got plenty to play on steam that I do care about. and honestly I have both bc2 for PC and 360, and I find 360 still has pluses over PC, server browsers suck, i'm fine with p2p, i play with friends so i dont' really care if there is a screaming kid somewhere at least people use mics on consoles instead of isolating themselves in vent servers, and I don't mind smaller games, in fact I usually prefer it so it insant a complete cluster **** if bf3 doesn't even introduce new game modes there is a good chance I won't be buying it day 1 if at all.. This is all called preference, I play the game, I enjoy the game, my $2k PC has never proven to be that much better then a $100 360

2K PC... Hmm proof?

And there it is fake boy confirmed...

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#6 NanoMan88
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Any console gamers who complain are extremely selfish even if they know their hardware cannot run it they would like the pc version to look like the console version as well so they "feel better". DICE is not trying to harm you people or give you an inferior version, DICE unlike other companies are being fair; they are trying to maximize the game to every system's capabilities, the console footage is impressive for consoles I cannot think of a game that offers such a large player count with gfx and physics as impressive as bf3, and please do not cry that ugly turd mag which looks last gen.

This is a classic example of getting what you pay for.

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#7 NanoMan88
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[QUOTE="NanoMan88"]

[QUOTE="savagetwinkie"] its about convenience, its the same game, if its more convenient to get a 360 disc, then i'll get that, buying a PC version means having to install it and deal with DRM, steam is the only DD service I'm willing to deal with, i don't want multiple accounts, its portable and works since If i decide wipe my hard drive its still intact on my second hard drive. And I don't like buying PC hard copies because its an inconvenience to install. convenience > graphics, 360 more convenient than PC in this case, 360 > PC DragonfireXZ95

Wait so does that mean you pass on great games not on steam such as minecraft, starcraft 2, diablo 3 in the future etc? Well I hope you enjoy your 24 players, inferior gfx, small maps, no servers, 60$ a year screaming kids daycare center.

In other words, if his DVD gets all scratched up, guess who has to buy another game again?

At least on PC if his disk gets scratched up he can activate the cdkey on origins and redownload it, on xbox he is boned.

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#8 NanoMan88
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I dont see the point of having a high end PC and not playing BF3 on it, unless as someone mentioned before, most of your friends play on the consoles. Not knocking the console crowd, just saying that it will most likely be the superior version and will have all the perks of a PC game (servers, use of TS/vent), etc, so why not.TruedUp

I really dont think this guy is a pc gamer, first of all mice do not make a big difference in gaming, especially in bf; this isnt cs where u need split second reactions. Second I have seen gaming mouse for low as 25$, who gets a gtx480 then whines about not being able to get a 25$ gaming mouse?

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#9 NanoMan88
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[QUOTE="savagetwinkie"] If i'm going to buy a disc, it will be a 360 disc kthx. savagetwinkie

So just because you have to get it on disk you get the inferior version? Someone is a steam fanboy, I love steam as well but I would not get an inferior version just because god forbid its not on steam.

its about convenience, its the same game, if its more convenient to get a 360 disc, then i'll get that, buying a PC version means having to install it and deal with DRM, steam is the only DD service I'm willing to deal with, i don't want multiple accounts, its portable and works since If i decide wipe my hard drive its still intact on my second hard drive. And I don't like buying PC hard copies because its an inconvenience to install. convenience > graphics, 360 more convenient than PC in this case, 360 > PC

Wait so does that mean you pass on great games not on steam such as minecraft, starcraft 2, diablo 3 in the future etc? Well I hope you enjoy your 24 players, inferior gfx, small maps, no servers, 60$ a year screaming kids daycare center.

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#10 NanoMan88
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[QUOTE="Lost-Memory"][QUOTE="Inconsistancy"] Why do you only buy through steam? D2D's cheaper for launch titles anyway, and if you have a problem with steam but willing to get the 360, why not get the physical version of the pc game?savagetwinkie
This is a great idea.. Just because you can't get it through steam doesn't mean you go buy the inferior 360 version (not trying to offend anyone, it is how it is.) just get the PC Disk.

If i'm going to buy a disc, it will be a 360 disc kthx.

So just because you have to get it on disk you get the inferior version? Someone is a steam fanboy, I love steam as well but I would not get an inferior version just because god forbid its not on steam.