[QUOTE="gundamfan80"]MGS4 and FFXIII aren't going to 360 let it die already. 360 may get a different game out of the project surrounding FFXIII but thats about it. Its been stated over and over and over the devs have never named the 360 in anything about these games and they are talking about games that would take up way too many dvds to be practical on 360.Neal_Gore

I agree about letting it die, but as far as it not coming to the 360 who cares? With the sales of the Ps3 I wouldn't doubt it for a moment that they show up on the 360.

There are only two reasons MGS4 or FF13 wouldn't come to the 360

1. The Ps3 sells like crazy(not going to happen at it's current pricetag)

2. Sony paid the two companies some cash to keep them on the Ps3 or is doing them some business favors in return

MGS4 and FFXIII aren't going to 360 let it die already. 360 may get a different game out of the project surrounding FFXIII but thats about it. Its been stated over and over and over the devs have never named the 360 in anything about these games and they are talking about games that would take up way too many dvds to be practical on 360.gundamfan80

I agree about letting it die, but as far as it not coming to the 360 who cares? With the sales of the Ps3 I wouldn't doubt it for a moment that they would show up on the 360.

[QUOTE="WatsonC"][QUOTE="Neal_Gore"]

[QUOTE="Thompsonwhore"]FPS are not "better" on a console nor on a PC. But PCs are superior in controlling them. RTS games are as well. Both genres are just frustrating on controllers compared to the keyboard and mouse where they play so smoothly.rpg9000owner

We are talking about video games. People are playing games on their cell phones and having fun.

so what?? the same game with better controller is Not fun? and fyi yes many 360 games r on PC also , besides gears and halo 3

Why would I want to wait to play Gears? I wouldn't and where is a link to it being confirmed, not that it matters.

 Been there , done that

[QUOTE="Neal_Gore"][QUOTE="rpg9000owner"]

Doom 1-3, Quake 1-4, Half-Life 1-2, NOLF 1-2, Unreal tournament 1-3, Wolf 1-2, F.E.A.R, Serious sam (the first two), COD 1, Jedi Knight series, Duke Nukem 3D, Rise of the traids, Tribes 1-3, Dues Ex, System Shock 2, S.T.A.L.K.E.R, Battlefield series (no, not the console versions), Far Cry, Alien vs predator 1-2, Clive barkers: Undying, Soldier of fortune 1-2, Counter-Strike, Day of defeat, Red-Orchestra, Marathon 1-2, Blood 1-2, Operation Flashpoint, Star Trek: Voyager.

Mods don't make games better? Try the Doom 3 flashlight mod, or the countless Oblivion mods that took out the level scaling, or the hundreds texture mods that improve games graphics, or the countless mods that takes 2D games into 3D (Doom 1-2 and Duke nukem being two of them), so these don't improve games? Nice logic there champ.

Mods add more content and life to games, Half Life 2 for instance. Hidden: Source, Battlegrounds, Gary's mod, Source forts, Pirates Vikings and Knights, Goldeneye: Source, Perfect Dark: Source, Alien swarm: Infested, Eternal Silence, Dystopia, HL2: CTF, Minerva and much more. If a game has a great mod community/support then it improves the package. So again, mods do improve games.

rpg9000owner

I'd rather play more of different games than just slapping a mod on. So it is a matter of opinion about mods.

So tell me, whats mods have you played? 

I played different mods for Quake 2 and 3 which were ok but I would get bored of the game even with a mod after a short while. My favorite mod for those games were Rocket Arena.

I'm sure I tried other mods but it's not the same as getting a new game. As far as games go right now the Xbox 360 has what I want, If I wasn't happy with it I would get my gaming on another platform.

[QUOTE="Neal_Gore"][QUOTE="WatsonC"][QUOTE="Neal_Gore"][QUOTE="WatsonC"]

the funny thing is that X1900 and 7900GTX r faster than Xenos if ur talking about : pixel fillrate , texture fillrate , mem bandwidth

but people get confuesed with xenos' 64 unified shaders ... umm , yean unified means pixel + vertex all together .. X1900 has 16 vertex shader , and 48 pixel , while 79900 has 24 vertex and 32 pixel i think ... so it was hard to comapre xenos with last gen GPUs in terms of shader performance, but X1900, 7900 still beats xenos in pixel, texture , and mem bandwidth.. but when G80s out ... pay back's a ....

WatsonC

The funny thing is that people are having fun playing Halo 3 beta, what are you playing on the PC that is so great or better? a old game like CS or UT2004?

its delayed , and i too own 360 .. and a PS3 and a wii also

u brought that up b/c that guy's early argument about xenos faster just failed

Can I ask what is your education background that you know what is more powerful?

i am a college student , and why?

Are you taking advanced electronics/Computer Science courses in college? Cause I would rather ask somebody like John Carmack or Tim Sweeney about the power of current PCs and game consoles.

[QUOTE="Neal_Gore"]

[QUOTE="Thompsonwhore"]FPS are not "better" on a console nor on a PC. But PCs are superior in controlling them. RTS games are as well. Both genres are just frustrating on controllers compared to the keyboard and mouse where they play so smoothly.WatsonC

We are talking about video games. People are playing games on their cell phones and having fun.

so what?? the same game with better controller is Not fun? and fyi yes many 360 games r on PC also , besides gears and halo 3

Madden? GH II? Kameo? Dead Rising? Crackdown? Saints Row? and whatever else I'm forgetting

Doom 1-3, Quake 1-4, Half-Life 1-2, NOLF 1-2, Unreal tournament 1-3, Wolf 1-2, F.E.A.R, Serious sam (the first two), COD 1, Jedi Knight series, Duke Nukem 3D, Rise of the traids, Tribes 1-3, Dues Ex, System Shock 2, S.T.A.L.K.E.R, Battlefield series (no, not the console versions), Far Cry, Alien vs predator 1-2, Clive barkers: Undying, Soldier of fortune 1-2, Counter-Strike, Day of defeat, Red-Orchestra, Marathon 1-2, Blood 1-2, Operation Flashpoint, Star Trek: Voyager.

Mods don't make games better? Try the Doom 3 flashlight mod, or the countless Oblivion mods that took out the level scaling, or the hundreds texture mods that improve games graphics, or the countless mods that takes 2D games into 3D (Doom 1-2 and Duke nukem being two of them), so these don't improve games? Nice logic there champ. 

Mods add more content and life to games, Half Life 2 for instance. Hidden: Source, Battlegrounds, Gary's mod, Source forts, Pirates Vikings and Knights, Goldeneye: Source, Perfect Dark: Source, Alien swarm: Infested, Eternal Silence, Dystopia, HL2: CTF, Minerva and much more. If a game has a great mod community/support then it improves the package. So again, mods do improve games.  

rpg9000owner

I'd rather play more of different games than just slapping a mod on. So it is a matter of opinion about mods.

[QUOTE="Neal_Gore"][QUOTE="WatsonC"]

the funny thing is that X1900 and 7900GTX r faster than Xenos if ur talking about : pixel fillrate , texture fillrate , mem bandwidth

but people get confuesed with xenos' 64 unified shaders ... umm , yean unified means pixel + vertex all together .. X1900 has 16 vertex shader , and 48 pixel , while 79900 has 24 vertex and 32 pixel i think ... so it was hard to comapre xenos with last gen GPUs in terms of shader performance, but X1900, 7900 still beats xenos in pixel, texture , and mem bandwidth.. but when G80s out ... pay back's a ....

WatsonC

The funny thing is that people are having fun playing Halo 3 beta, what are you playing on the PC that is so great or better? a old game like CS or UT2004?

its delayed , and i too own 360 .. and a PS3 and a wii also 

u brought that up b/c that guy's early argument about xenos  faster just failed 

Can I ask what is your education background that you know what is more powerful?