[QUOTE="housy2008"]

Saying that uncharted has already "Dethroned" Gears is very cowish of you RedFingers, omg how to say it "SELF PWNED" yet again

Redfingers

Saying that it hasn't is very "lemming-ish."

Saying that UT3 and Gears PC do not match up to Gears 360 is the most "lemming-ish" thing I've seen all my life. Read the commentary, watch the vid, read Mark Rein's lips, view the vids and pictures, STHU, please.

[QUOTE="NickG1215"][QUOTE="Filonus"][QUOTE="NickG1215"][QUOTE="housy2008"]

The thing that people forget when making graphic comparisons to GeoW, is that it was released back in november. So of course games are going to be looking better than it a year later, especially when creators get the PS3 figured out.

Oh and Gears got 9.6:)

Filonus

kz1 was extremely over-hyped and didn't deliver. it's funny how quickly people forget these things once there is new eye candy to slobber all over

jesus this is annoying now... hearing all the cricism they received for killzone 1 what the devs are gonna make the same game? i'm not saying this game will be the second coming imofor me that game will be FFXIII, but to think that killzone 2 will flop...is just nonsensically pessismistic.

i'm no where near as hyped for KZ2 as most of the sony camp right now. But people need to remember 1 that the Killzone team has grown i think 4 times or so as big. It's not exactly the same team. 2 kz 1 by their own admission didnt live up to the hype and its biggest draw back was thehardware it was on.Apparently they aimedto high for certain things and didnt just make a solid shooter. I don't think any shooter on ps2 could have equalled Halo. This is 07 and things have changed.

its the truth like it or not. guerrilla has yet to prove themselves as game makers. if i come off as pessimistic then thats your opinion, i think of it as being realistic. sure kz2 looks amazing, but until the final copy has been played and reviewed i think it'd be better off being forgotten for the moment. games like uncharted and ratchet come from two great development studios that truly know their craft, these are the games that deserve hype, not kz2

no its not the truth its your opinion. Guerilla has been VASTLY augumented.what your saying IS pessimistic. Killzone 2 could flop but to compare its development to the first game which was plagued by development problems and weak hardware is very stupid. More and more videos are gonna be released up until release; i think today harrison said its gonna be at TGS and Leipzig. Reporters will probably have a chance to test it out and give us their opinions.

In addition no one on this board should have to wait for it to come out F&*K that. You could apply that to any damn game.Hell capcom had a fantastic track record. Onimusha 3 and 4 sucked.DMC3 sucked. Many people say that quake4 sucked.If they wanna hype it let em hype it. That's what these boards, mags and blogs on gaming are about.

i also wouldn't consider these boards to be the source of any sort of reliable information whatsoever.

[QUOTE="NickG1215"]

yes but have the ps1 and ps2s been that great of sellers to make up for a hit like that? i think i remember seeing 4 BILLION dollars in the red. it's going to take them years to make up something like that. i also have a tough time believing that sony is going to be making a profit on the systems already.

its also funny to hear that sony is going for software emulation after all this time, since that was a major argument point for why the ps3 bc was sooooooo much better.

the fact of the matter is that all the higher-ups at sony need to keep their mouths shut until ps3 starts doing better.

dlp21

PS3 profitable...link

[QUOTE="NickG1215"][QUOTE="housy2008"]

The thing that people forget when making graphic comparisons to GeoW, is that it was released back in november. So of course games are going to be looking better than it a year later, especially when creators get the PS3 figured out.

Oh and Gears got 9.6:)

Filonus

kz1 was extremely over-hyped and didn't deliver. it's funny how quickly people forget these things once there is new eye candy to slobber all over

jesus this is annoying now... hearing all the cricism they received for killzone 1 what the devs are gonna make the same game? i'm not saying this game will be the second coming imofor me that game will be FFXIII, but to think that killzone 2 will flop...is just nonsensically pessismistic.

i'm no where near as hyped for KZ2 as most of the sony camp right now. But people need to remember 1 that the Killzone team has grown i think 4 times or so as big. It's not exactly the same team. 2 kz 1 by their own admission didnt live up to the hype and its biggest draw back was thehardware it was on.Apparently they aimedto high for certain things and didnt just make a solid shooter. I don't think any shooter on ps2 could have equalled Halo. This is 07 and things have changed.

its the truth like it or not. guerrilla has yet to prove themselves as game makers. if i come off as pessimistic then thats your opinion, i think of it as being realistic. sure kz2 looks amazing, but until the final copy has been played and reviewed i think it'd be better off being forgotten for the moment. games like uncharted and ratchet come from two great development studios that truly know their craft, these are the games that deserve hype, not kz2

[QUOTE="-Ninja_Dog-"][QUOTE="Heil68"]So no games from the 360 deserve that? how about mass effect? no??? How about COD4 for both systems..no? You come back when YOU done YOUR homeworkRedfingers

Its all realitive really.

GoeW is more confined allowing for more detail.

Mass Effect looks sweet, its about on par. COD4 looks ok too, but it has much bigger enviroments , so of course it will beless detailed.

Heavenly Sword, Uncharted, Killzone, and Ratchet and Clank are all larger, with much larger draw distances, more units on screen (in the case of Ratchet and Heavenly, much more) and still continue to be more detailed than Gears of War, which is why I consider them to be so remarkable.

And that's also why I consider Resistance to look at least equivalent to Gears of War. It has MUCH greater draw distances and better detail at a distance than Gears of War, as well as MANY more units onscreen.

ratchet and clank...no

ratchet and clank does not compare with gears graphically, but then i wouldn't want it to. ratchet games are supposed to be about cartoony graphics and having fun blowing stuff up.

then again you'll just ignore this and spew your draw distance crap for how many more posts

[QUOTE="thirstychainsaw"]

Microsoft is also making a profit on hardware sales now.But the three year warrenty might set them back every month though.

dlp21

that link doesn't say anything about MS making money on the hardware sales as of now, i doubt they are yet, but the link still only shows the bottom line numbers as of the quarter.

Umm, no they aren't. link

[QUOTE="NickG1215"]

hasn't sony lost billions of dollars on the ps3 so far? that's crazy.....

once again sony reps keep proving how out of touch they are with the real world.

dlp21

Yes, Sony is in the red on the PS3, however, both the PS1 and PS2 have been major profit makers for Sony, both of which were initially not making a profit. Also Sony is getting ready to begin making a profit on every system sold as they have refined their manufacturing and the cost of the Blue Ray diode has decreased substantially. Also the move to software emulation that has already been created is another way to increases profits.

its also funny to hear that sony is going for software emulation after all this time, since that was a major argument point for why the ps3 bc was sooooooo much better.

the fact of the matter is that all the higher-ups at sony need to keep their mouths shut until ps3 starts doing better.

The thing that people forget when making graphic comparisons to GeoW, is that it was released back in november. So of course games are going to be looking better than it a year later, especially when creators get the PS3 figured out.

Oh and Gears got 9.6:)

housy2008

kz1 was extremely over-hyped and didn't deliver. it's funny how quickly people forget these things once there is new eye candy to slobber all over

hasn't sony lost billions of dollars on the ps3 so far? that's crazy.....

once again sony reps keep proving how out of touch they are with the real world.