@ widdowson91 the only reason we use joysticks is because you cant use d-pads to accurately move around in 3D space, thats why the n64 had a joystick because mario 64 was develoed in 3D. And have you ever played twilight princess with a controller? Not only is it WAY easier but its much more precise and doesnt require you to look like an idiot. And yeah its bad that nintendo keeps using mario and zelda over and over, every zelda game involves you playing as some sort of link, battling some sort of ganon and saving some sort of zelda, the only difference it slight graphical upgrades, nintendo is in a position that developers with actual intuitive unique intellectual properties would kill for and at least they would make good games that arent on crappy wii graphics.

@widdowson91 People only say the wii is a casual gamer console because they have the most money out of all the companies making consoles and all they do is remake old franchises for the millionth time. And personally i think motion control should die, its just a stupid gimmick that devs use because gamers are bored and it costs too much money to make a new console, motion control will never be precise enough to replace a controller, let alone a keyboard and mouse.