Good thing is you can resupply the beer through digital distribution.RyuRanVIILets hope Steam supports this feature in future updates :P
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I hope they dont use PPC for the CPU. AMD Fusion would make more sense.TheAcountantManI agree with you on that one. However, the main concern is backwards compatibilty with Wii games might be difficult, maybe even dropped altogether, due to architecture differences.
Oh no! I am never going to buy another Sony product after viewing this picture! :'( *throws PS3 and PSP out window*this just in: they're going to sit at 30 stores contrary to the 20 they were going to sit in before.
edit: LMAO, my above comment was a joke. turns out...it was correct:
[quote="Anonymous"]
This April 16th, grab your mask, a few friends, and get to a local sony store by you. Use the IRC and the official Facebook page to organize a protest in your area. Make sure the people know the injustices performed by this corrupt company.
Boycott all sony products and if you have recently purchased any, return them.TheKing012
:lol:
the attack:
Running cooler is not a technical upgrade, just a helpful convenience. By your logic, I could say that my netbook is an upgraded version of my high-end desktop because it runs cooler. Shifting from 9nm to 45nm is just a manufacturing process change. It benefits the corporation more than the consumer (depending who is getting the financial savings). Nothing more, nothing less. A "Wii Slim" cannot do anything a normal Wii can do. Theres a difference between hardware update and hardware upgrade.[QUOTE="PandaBear86"]
[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"] runs cooler and use less power? Better manufacturing is an upgrade just not on the processing power side of things.
TheAcountantMan
Huh?
Of course it is a technical upgrade.
The term upgrade refers to the replacement of a product with a newer version of the same product. It is most often used in computing and consumer electronics, generally meaning a replacement of hardware, software or firmware with a newer or better version, in order to bring the system up to date
How do you argue against that:| ?
The 45nm process is in high production and the RnD for it in general has been done like you said, but wouldn't Nintendo have to invest money and resources into testing, q and a, analysis, getting a new production line setup so they could make chips on the 45nm process?
All that costs money and resources, that could be spent making the Wii 2 which would be a far better invesment.
Its not like theres some "90nm to 45nm converter program" where with a click of a button you can convert a 90nm chip to the 45nm process.......you do know this right?
Wouldn't that labor be better spent on working on a succesr to the Wii?
That would just be like AMD manufacturing their Phenom II chips on the 32nm process, when their new Bulldozer CPU's are right around the corner, i mean sure i do like the Phenom II series just like you like the Wii, theyre good chips(AMD), but theres NO POINT, in making it on a 32nm process, when you could focus on Bulldozer (AMDs next gen chips).
The Phenom II is a dying platform.
Just like Nintendo, the Wii is old, its out dated, why focus on a dying platform, when Nintendo could work on the Wii 2?
The Wii has had its fun in the limelight, make something new already.
Just my 0.02.
EDIT:
Here's an article on how much it cost Intel to upgrade their fab plants to make chips on the 45nm process.
Now since IBM makes the CPU and AMD makes the GPU in the Wii, wouldn't IBM and AMD/NEC/TSMC (or wherever they manufacture the GPU) have to upgrade the sectors at wherever they fab the chips at so they could manufacture chips on the 45nm process?
1) I like how you make it sound like Nintendo can barely afford to spend money on R&D, testing etc for 45nm Wii chips. They are a multi-billion dollar company. They can afford R&D like you can afford a pack of bubble gum. They can afford this in addition to research on Wii 2.
2) IBM and AMD already manufacture chips on 45nm process, its just that Nintendo does not purchase them. Nintendo sells enough Wii's to justify the move to 45nm.
[QUOTE="GulliversTravel"]Wow some people are defensive:| The OP is suggesting something that will SAVE Nintendo money, savings that might then be passed onto the consumers...cain006
It could possibly be more expensive to change the way that they're making it to not make it worth it. We don't really know which will save them money.
The cost for making a 45nm chip should be very low, since it is already in high production and the research/development has already been paid for. Nintendo does not need to research 45nm chipsets technology (it already exists), they need to convert the Wii to it :)ROFL :P Any confirmations of what physical media their next console will use? Was it 3.5" floppy disks or 5.25" floppy disks? :PNintendo likes retro don't ya know.
They are actually going to move to a 120nm process for the Wii2 and remove some of the higher resolutions that don't fit with their vision of a technologically backwards future.
1080pOnly
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