If he is the creator of something that goes wrong, then it's his responsibility.

No, He is not. I am not responsible for crimes my child has committed, nor am I responsible for when someone tampers with an invention of mine. Theokhoth

Different. God can make his inventions tamper-proof, if he's perfect and all-powerful. If they are tamper-proof, and he becomes upset with tampering, then it's his fault for leaving his creation vulnerable in that manner.

Maybe he should have made it to work better in the first place.

Maybe He did, and then time (or other factors) took their toll. Theokhoth

God can design everything he creates to be time-proof, or other-factor-proof. Unless he meant for it to be affected by these things? He must have meant it.

Maybe he could have designed it in a way to never fail, if he is perfect and could design his world perfect if he chose.

Logically impossible. Theokhoth

Nothing should be impossible for God. He can make anything perfect if he wants to, if he is God.

Either way, he's responsible. Unless he's not really God. God would have to be responsible for everything, if he indeed is the creator of everything. It's his creation, his resposnibilty.

No. Because if I recall correctly, after God created everything He put everything in charge of humans (Genesis). Theokhoth

And if he doesn't like what he sees humans do with his creation, it's still his fault, as God the almighty, who could have made his design human-proof, but did not. If he gets mad at anyone, it should be himself.

He made it, but it's not his fault that it fell apart?

Bingo. Theokhoth

Now that's something that's logically impossible! :lol:

[QUOTE="Persecuted_1"][QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

No, because it is a fault in her own biology. LJS9502_basic

A fault that came from? God.

If something goes wrong with the biology after God creates it then how is God responsible? Theokhoth

Wow. Umm, ok. This is pretty bad. Let's analyze this sentence. If something goes wrong with something after God creates it, then how is he responsible? Is that what you're saying? Wow, man. If he is the creator of something that goes wrong, then it's his responsibility. Maybe he should have made it to work better in the first place. Maybe he could have designed it in a way to never fail, if he is perfect and could design his world perfect if he chose. which means he must have chosen for it to be faulty, which means he's responsible for that too. Either way, he's responsible. Unless he's not really God. God would have to be responsible for everything, if he indeed is the creator of everything. It's his creation, his resposnibilty.

I find it funny that you would let him off the hook so quickly. He made it, but it's not his fault that it fell apart? So if my roof collapses on my head and paralyzes me for the rest of my life, I can't sue the builder? I sure could, because there are ways to build houses the right way so that they don't fall apart and pose a threat to the tenants dwelling within.

No, God's design has gone wrong, and humans ignorantly blame each other.

While the coward God watches with guilty eyes, and says, "yes that's right, it's your fault, not mine."

[QUOTE="Persecuted_1"]

Wow. Umm, ok. This is pretty bad. Let's analyze this sentence. If something goes wrong with something after God creates it, then how is he responsible? Is that what you're saying? Wow, man. If he is the creator of something that goes wrong, then it's his responsibility. Maybe he should have made it to work better in the first place. Maybe he could have designed it in a way to never fail, if he is perfect and could design his world perfect if he chose. which means he must have chosen for it to be faulty, which means he's responsible for that too. Either way, he's responsible. Unless he's not really God. God would have to be responsible for everything, if he indeed is the creator of everything. It's his creation, his resposnibilty.

I find it funny that you would let him off the hook so quickly. He made it, but it's not his fault that it fell apart? So if my roof collapses on my head and paralyzes me for the rest of my life, I can't sue the builder? I sure could, because there are ways to build houses the right way so that they don't fall apart and pose a threat to the tenants dwelling within.

Dark_Knight6

Yea, thats kind of like saying it isn't Microsoft's fault that the 360 red-rings. :?

Exactly. Like Bill Gates can just say, "Hey it's not my fault how our product performs once you've paid for it, and it's in your household."

By the way Theokhoth, here you go:

"Or do you not know that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals, nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, shall inherit the kingdom of God."(1 Cor. 6:9-10)

Homosexuals can not inherit the kingdom of god. That's it. Homosexuals. It doesn't say perverts who engaged in homosexual sex. It just says homosexuals. Which means, by being born gay you've been dealt a bad hand, and automatically condemned to hell, even though you had no control over how the situation developed. That's your God blaming you for his design flaws. Nice guy, eh?

No, because it is a fault in her own biology. Theokhoth

A fault that came from? God.

If something goes wrong with the biology after God creates it then how is God responsible? Theokhoth

Wow. Umm, ok. This is pretty bad. Let's analyze this sentence. If something goes wrong with something after God creates it, then how is he responsible? Is that what you're saying? Wow, man. If he is the creator of something that goes wrong, then it's his responsibility. Maybe he should have made it to work better in the first place. Maybe he could have designed it in a way to never fail, if he is perfect and could design his world perfect if he chose. which means he must have chosen for it to be faulty, which means he's responsible for that too. Either way, he's responsible. Unless he's not really God. God would have to be responsible for everything, if he indeed is the creator of everything. It's his creation, his resposnibilty.

I find it funny that you would let him off the hook so quickly. He made it, but it's not his fault that it fell apart? So if my roof collapses on my head and paralyzes me for the rest of my life, I can't sue the builder? I sure could, because there are ways to build houses the right way so that they don't fall apart and pose a threat to the tenants dwelling within.

[QUOTE="Persecuted_1"]

You understand that the christian God frowns upon homosexuality, do you not?

Personally, I have no problem with it, but it's quite flustering to try and comprehend a person who believes in a God that would shun him.

Theokhoth

God frowns upon sin in general. I'm not some exception to the good people in the world.

Well yes, Theokhoth. But God clearly takes a stand against homosexuality in the bible. Why you would worship a god who has forsaken you is confusing to me.

Who's behind those hormonal imbalances.

The mother. Theokhoth

And she had the ability to cause them through God's creation of her, correct?

God doesn't do much with biology. . . .

Theokhoth

So then god didn't create everything after all? If biology can even exist as something to study, wouldn't it be God who is responsible for all that it entails? In fact, wouldn't exploring biology be one way to study God's creation?

[QUOTE="Persecuted_1"][QUOTE="Dark_Knight6"][QUOTE="ferrari2001"]

Some people have foot fetishes and when they touch peoples feet or their feet our touched it triggers an orgasm in the Brain.. And I always thought those were for walking. Seriously the Butt is not meant for sex simple as that.

Dark_Knight6

Hm, I wonder what all those nerve endings were for.

Probably so that you can feel the feces exiting your anus, so that you'll know when your defecation is done.

Well, that doesn't really explain why stimulating the prostate can lead to an orgasm.

Perhaps as a second option for men who wish to reproduce, but suffer from erectile dysfunction? Just a guess.

[QUOTE="Persecuted_1"]Theokhoth seems to be confused about this whole scenario, though. Am I understanding correctly? From your words, I'm gathering that you are indeed a homosexual christian? Is this true?Theokhoth

Yes, and I'm not confused. I haven't been confused for a long time now.

You understand that the christian God frowns upon homosexuality, do you not?

Personally, I have no problem with it, but it's quite flustering to try and comprehend a person who believes in a God that would shun him.

[QUOTE="biBLioTek"] yet people can get orgasms from it. sex has turned into a pretty wide expression nowadays. a good sum up can be "physical love", and that includes homosexual intercourse.

oh, and a question to my fanatical christian brethren: how can God hate homosexuals, when hes the creator of them? its pretty much proved that youre born homosexual, so since its not a persons choice, its actually Gods will

Theokhoth

Homosexuality is caused by hormone imbalances when you're in the mother's womb. . . . .not God.

Who's behind those hormonal imbalances. Wouldn't it be god, if he's behind the whole process to begin with? How can God be detached from responsibility to anything, while still being responsible for, and receiving credit for, it's creation?

Confusing, to say the least.