@quadknight said:
@Phazevariance said:
@quadknight said:
Rekt.
Another shitty argument destroyed.
I like how he mentions no PC gamer would build a PC with such low end parts like people don't build cheap PCs all the time.
Lol, if you think that 'rekt' my comment, you totally didn't read the other points. All of the below are required to be equal:
+ HDMI Cable ($10)
+ Keyboard and Mouse ($40)
+ Controller ($60)
= $693 + $10 + $40 + $60
= $803 !!
- No Dolby Atmos
- No DTS:X
- No 4K Bluray Capabilities
- RAM/CPU gobbled up by full OS background services
Does that PC that was spec'd even include the case fans and CPU fan? Who knows, probably not. Feels like you guys have never built a PC before. You don't just go to the store and buy this kind of thing without getting all the required components to turn it on. All of that included in the X1X for a cheaper $499.99 price.
Last time I checked... $500 is less than $800.
And if you had been paying attention to the original argument and not jumping into this thread to defend your Xbone purchase you would have noticed I was talking solely about building a PC to surpass Xbone's performance. None of the things you mentioned have anything to do with performance of games. The RAM issue you're talking about is garbage. A system with 8GB of RAM is good enough to run any game. Even Star Citizen doesn't require more than 8GB of RAM to run and that game is more demanding than game on consoles.
Adding things like Keyboard and mouse (controller, really lol?) to the cost while neglecting the cost of a TV for a console is hypocritical. You also need a TV to play your Xbone, do you not? What about XBL fees to play online?
The guy I was arguing with decided to add heat and size constraints to give the Xbone an advantage while none of those things are required to build a PC more powerful than an XboneX. The XboneX is good value for money for what it offers but the idea one cannot build a relatively cheap PC that outperforms the XboneX is bullshit. People build cheap PCs all the time. You don't have to spend big bucks on a decent gaming PC. On top of that a PC has many functions that go way beyond that of a XboneX and it's easily upgradable while the XboneX isn't.
I didn't buy an xbox so there's no justification needed. Just the facts. You can't argue about "building a PC solely to surpass the xbox" if the PC you priced doesn't turn on or can't be used!
RAM argument? My argument was that system resources are gobbled up by the OS on a PC so you actually have less resources for performance of the game when you compare 1:1 hardware specs. So, I'm not sure what part of that confused you.
I neglected the cost of a monitor for PC and the cost of a TV for console so it's even. No display costs were added, but kb+m, cables, fans, etc, are essential to running a PC and thus the costs must be included.
I don't care about heat and size constraints but tell me how you will install Windows without a keyboard or mouse? The argument of an equivalent PC is false if it's not accurate. And even if a PC can do exel and surf the net, with that PC you still won't get current HD audio formats so it's still inferior from a gaming perspective. I mean, i love my PC and would take it over Xbox any day, but apples to apples, there is no way to buy a PC for $500 that will function and be equivalent to the performance of the X1X.
As for upgrades, in a few years you buy a new more powerful xbox for again $500ish and still can play your older games just fine, but on the PC side you can't upgrade the CPU much without a newer motherboard (and often that means new RAM too), and a better video card will costs half of what the new next gen xbox will cost on it's own. No matter how you look at it, the PC argument is crap and based on your response, I think you know it. A high end PC is the best way, but it will cost you. An equivalent PC will work, but it too will cost you more than the console.
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