They are. Just, they are retro games from previous consoles. Also, the cost of their online is like $2.xx per month, which is pretty much cheaper than one starbucks coffee each month.

They do make stuff new and magical, they just skin it with their character models. Do you feel that every zelda/mario game are exactly alike? Most play very differently than predecessors. That's how they role. Come up with a new game type/play/mechanic and see which franchise it would best fit. Create a new game using that matches character/world sets, and have it completely non connecting with previous itterations. New story, new graphics, new everything, except maintain the architecture of the lore where possible.

IMHO that's as good as a new game. Why do they have to make a new IP completely for new game mechanics?

For starters, there will likely be packages you need to include on your internet service plan from the ISP, such as the "Gaming package" which allows access to PSN, Steam, XBL, Uplay, Origin, etc...

You may also need the "Streaming package" to be allowed to stream content from the consoles, or from other providers like Twitch, Netflix, YouTube, etc...

All that on top of your usual subscriptions, and base internet bill. Oh, and forget any other company coming out and making competition for Steam/Uplay/Origin, it just won't happen.

Wrong, they don't have "exclusives" but they have a ton of good games. Exclusives make up like what, less than 5% of all games on the market?

OP - MS never said it would outsell even their current Xbox One, they went in knowing it was a premium console just for the hardcore gamers. Not sure why you try to spin that as a loss when it was expected. Perhaps it just didn't meet what you were expecting, which was a new generation of console or something...

Then you compare the X1X to the PS4Pro and see which console is the true failure. PS4 Pro is a completely useless upgrade and offers almost no increase in image quality over res bump. X1X at least has a higher res bump, and increased settings like texture res, aa, etc...

THEN you have kinect 2.0 as an L... yeah it sure was! Then MS wised up and dumped it entirely, it's not even sold with the consoles anymore, so good on them.

Pretty much everything else in OP was irrelevant except the cancellations, which were L's for sure. PUGB isn't MS fault, it's the devs fault for being crap programmers when patching it for the X1X.

Yeah i'm gonna have to disagree with OP.

Scaling a 1080p image up to 4k using the TV scaler, vs scaling up a 1440p iamge to 4K also using the tv scaler will still give you a sharper image from the Pro's native 1440p image. This doesn't matter if the textures are the same as a PS4, the fact that the models are rendered at a higher resolution to start with means the final image will be crisper and less aliased.

On 1080p screens, that means the pS4 Pro can downscale the image for an even sharper 1080p image, so the Pro is worth it if you like that extra clarity. I think what OP is mixing up here is the idea that graphics are better, but they arent, just resolution, and that's ok.

That being said, i'd still prefer to get an X1X for all multiplats and a cheaper standard PS4 for teh exclusivz which some cows think are the only games that exist.

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The most gorgeous game mah eyes have ever seen and that's not even seeing it run on Mighty X1X MonsterBox. :O

2018 Graphics King and GOAT on lock... Baby!!! . :P

Why do you put :P at the end of everything you type?

Are you 13?

:P was cool over a decade ago.... Hmmmm..

I'm going to be very specific for you. I'm as old as mah tongue and a little bit older than mah teeth. lolol

Truth be told, I was playing VG before you were even a spot in yo daddy's undies. :P

If you were that old then you would no the expression "Assumptions to do nothing but make an ass out of you and me"

That's only funny because you use "no" instead of "know" and your expression is wrong because there is no "me" in the word Assumption. It's "When you assume, you make an ass out of you and me". ASS-U-ME. C'mon man, at least put some effort into your rebuttal.

It's a very powerful console.

MS screwed up with the start of the Xbox One gen at E3 and even to this day the hate is strong, but it's a powerful console for it's price point, and it's convenient. And yeah, it outperforms multiplatform games over Sony but has no exclusives that it doesn't share with PC. Personally, I love that it shares the games with PC so i wouldn't consider that a knock on the Xbox brand. There are still a lot of games you can play on Xbox/PC that you can't on Sony or Nintendo's platforms, and lets face it, MS wants you to buy their operating system and software, not their hardware as much. You buy a PC with Windows, or an Xbox One (with Windows) and some of the games they have stakes in, they win no matter what. Hate away, but they are doing just fine between the two platforms.

The way I see it, Ps4 came out, Pro was 3 years later which was a bit early and kind of a slap in the face for recent buyers. Releasing Ps5 within 3 years of the pro would be a disservice for fans who recently bought the brand new pro system. I wouldn't expect a PS5 release anytime before 2019-2020 which means they will announce it tomorrow (years in advance) and delay it until 2021.

Disagree, people who can't afford a PC or don't have the expertise to build or manage one, would definitely be in x1x market.

What do you mean? Isn't a gtx 1080 TI a low end card? And the Titan V is the lowest you can buy!