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#1 Plzhelpmelearn
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[QUOTE="Plzhelpmelearn"][QUOTE="super_mario_128"] ... No, that would make them lesbians. Dark_Knight6

there is no sexual aspect to it, however. It seems like everyone defines all of these terms in regards to sexual behavior.

Yeah, not really. Sexuality is based on the attraction, not the action.

...and attractions are not allowed to change for whatever reasons? What someone is attracted to seems like a pretty loose concept, which is why I have a hard time accepting sexuality in similar terms as other physical; characteristics.

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[QUOTE="Plzhelpmelearn"][QUOTE="Ring_of_fire"]

homosexuality nor heterosexuality are about "Behavior patterns". They are about the sexual attraction to the same or opposite sex (depending on what side you fall on). Gay people who are in the closet are still gays, no matter how many woman they are with.

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So in your eyes can a gay person become straight or vise versa?

No. I don't know where you got that idea, as I never said that.

I did not mean to imply that you did believe that, I was trying to clarify your understanding for my sake. Well, my next question would be, do you have any objective evidence to support this conclusion, or do you just rather fancy it?
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#3 Plzhelpmelearn
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I think there are benefits to keeping marriage between a man and a woman. I can't say I would be too drastically hurt if gay marriage were legalized though I would prefer if they changed the name to civil unions for everyone from a legal aspect so as to not offend the many religious folk in our country.

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#4 Plzhelpmelearn
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[QUOTE="Ring_of_fire"] But just because a repressed gay guy marries a woman, has sex with a woman, has kids with that same woman, does not mean the gay guy is straight.Ring_of_fire

You seem to be trying to put a strict label on someone as if they are "really" gay though they are practicing heterosexuality. In actuality, homosexuality and heterosexuality are much better explained as patterns of behavior rather than solid definable traits of an individual like race and gender. I know many "lesbians" who don't even have sex, so maybe that would make them nonsexuals though they enjoy the romantic company of a female?

homosexuality nor heterosexuality are about "Behavior patterns". They are about the sexual attraction to the same or opposite sex (depending on what side you fall on). Gay people who are in the closet are still gays, no matter how many woman they are with.

So in your eyes can a gay person become straight or vise versa?
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[QUOTE="Plzhelpmelearn"]so maybe that would make them nonsexuals though they enjoy the romantic company of a female?super_mario_128
... No, that would make them lesbians.

there is no sexual aspect to it, however. It seems like everyone defines all of these terms in regards to sexual behavior.
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#6 Plzhelpmelearn
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[QUOTE="Plzhelpmelearn"][QUOTE="Dark_Knight6"]

Repressing one's homosexuality does not change the fact that they're homosexual.

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It probably doesn't help that one's sexual preference is exactly that...a preference...it is not necessarily a mandate.

But just because a repressed gay guy marries a woman, has sex with a woman, has kids with that same woman, does not mean the gay guy is straight.

You seem to be trying to put a strict label on someone as if they are "really" gay though they are practicing heterosexuality. In actuality, homosexuality and heterosexuality are much better explained as patterns of behavior rather than solid definable traits of an individual like race and gender. I know many "lesbians" who don't even have sex, so maybe that would make them nonsexuals though they enjoy the romantic company of a female?

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#7 Plzhelpmelearn
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[QUOTE="Plzhelpmelearn"]

[QUOTE="LastCaveMan"]

Your race, gender is not a choice, so why would your sexuality be one? What do you think?

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I've never met an ex-black person. I have met a former gay person tho...

Repressing one's homosexuality does not change the fact that they're homosexual.

It probably doesn't help that one's sexual preference is exactly that...a preference...it is not necessarily a mandate.
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#8 Plzhelpmelearn
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Because it is a choice

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No it's not. Similar to how heterosexual men do not choose to be attracted to women, they simply are.

Well that would make sense because men and women are biologically designed to be attracted to one another.
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#9 Plzhelpmelearn
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Your race, gender is not a choice, so why would your sexuality be one? What do you think?

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I've never met an ex-black person. I have met a former gay person tho...

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#10 Plzhelpmelearn
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Because it is a choice