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#1 PoindeJ
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What everybody else has said is correct. Red Steel 2 is great fun, and the best use of motion controls in ANY console game, as far as I'm concerned. (Well, until Skyward Sword comes out, anyway.) Wii Sports Resort is pretty fun too, albeit a bit better with two MotionPlus accessories, as you can get a friend in on the action for Table Tennis. Tiger Woods PGA Tour '10 or '11 also got good reviews, if you're into golf games. And so did NHL 2K10, I believe (or one of those years, at least.)

If you haven't gotten one yet, get a bundle or just get the Zelda bundle. It's only $20 for an extra Wii Remote Plus -- and honestly playing without the accessory on the controller will be more confortable.

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#2 PoindeJ
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[QUOTE="PoindeJ"]

[QUOTE="nitekids2004"]

@Pointdej

3DS launched in Japan at 25,000 Yen ($306.19)

Retail Prices for gamescosts as much as4800-6090 Yen ($58.79 - $74.59).

I can't believe sheep are bashing Sony for this but not Ninty.

nitekids2004

I know this, nitekids -- which is precisely why I didn't compare directly to US prices. Did you even read my post?

Instead, I compared the announced Japanese Vita game prices to Japanese PS3 game prices. I am not saying that PS Vita games are definitely going to cost $60, as we're not gonna know for sure until Sony announces US prices. But I am saying that, if in Japan some Vita games cost as much as new PS3 games, that does not bode well at all. If Sony brings that pricing pattern to the US, we could see some Vita games costing $60.

Although, it does seem that Japanese game pricing is all over the place, looking at Amazon Japan. 5,980 yen does seem to be on the low side for PS3 games. Even the standalone (well, with the CD) version of Skyward Sword costs 6,800 yen.

/sigh because your post reeks of fanboyism. You were saying "it doesn't look good folks" as if pricing the games at 6k Yen is out of the norm. Fact is, its not.

Game developers are pricing that much in Japan because of their higher standards of living. They could afford to shell out that much money for videogames.

Fact is, you don't hear people complaining 3DS games costing almost $70 in Japan because frankly, they're used to it. And7000 Yen there is probably 10 set ofmeals (700 Yen/meal).

Well I apologize if I sounded like a fanboy, as I certainly wasn't trying to. As for 6k Yen being out of the norm -- I'm not familar with market prices of goods in Japan, so I don't actually know what the norm is; my post was an attempt to try to discover that. I thought that Uncharted 3, a first-party new release from Sony, was a pretty good indication of what the normal price of a PS3 game was. The fact that it was being released at the same price as future Vita games is what didn't "look good" to me. Apparently Uncharted 3 is releasing for cheaper than most PS3 games though, so in fact it "looks better" than I initially thought.

I understand that games are more expensive in Japan for a number of reasons. I was never trying to address that, though -- I was simply replying to the thread title. 3DS titles obviously don't cost $70 in America. However, 3DS titles are generally more expensive than DS titles -- that much is true in Japan and America. It looks like, at least in Japan, Vita titles will be more expensive than most 3DS titles, based on Sony's announcement -- which means more expensive than $35-$40, if that remains true in America as well (something we do not know for sure, to be fair). I'm just saying that this announcement does not exactly inspire hope for people wishing handheld game prices not to rise much.

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[QUOTE="PoindeJ"]

[QUOTE="nitekids2004"]

@Pointdej

3DS launched in Japan at 25,000 Yen ($306.19)

Retail Prices for gamescosts as much as4800-6090 Yen ($58.79 - $74.59).

I can't believe sheep are bashing Sony for this but not Ninty.

hakanakumono

I know this, nitekids -- which is precisely why I didn't compare directly to US prices. Did you even read my post?

Instead, I compared the announced Japanese Vita game prices to Japanese PS3 game prices. I am not saying that PS Vita games are definitely going to cost $60, as we're not gonna know for sure until Sony announces US prices. But I am saying that, if in Japan some Vita games cost as much as new PS3 games, that does not bode well at all. If Sony brings that pricing pattern to the US, we could see some Vita games costing $60.

Although, it does seem that Japanese game pricing is all over the place, looking at Amazon Japan. 5,980 yen does seem to be on the low side for PS3 games. Even the standalone (well, with the CD) version of Skyward Sword costs 6,800 yen.

Japanese PS3 games typically cost over 7000 yen and can even go up to 9600. There isn't really much credence to the argument that they're being priced the same as PS3 games. Moreover, in Japan it seems to be up to the publisher more than anything.

Okay, fair enough. I guess Sony is just being nice releasing Uncharted 3 in Japan so cheaply, relatively speaking.

Also, how big are Vita games going to be? Is downloading even going to be worth the discount if you have to buy all the extra memory space? (And can't later sell/trade your games?)

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Yeah, it's cool and all, but why even make it a console game at that point? If I'm not using the TV, why not a DS game I can take on the go? I mean, it has the same problem the PSP had really. If I have the choice to play a great game, I'd rather do it on my nice big TV with my nice surround system then on a little screen with tiny speakers.

The only time I want to not use the TV with the wiiU is when a family memeber kicks me off the TV. :P

While the wiiu tablet "could" be fine with RTS's, I just think the wiimote/nunchuck is set up to be way better.

goblaa

Yeah, fair enough. I guess I want something like that because the graphical update would be nice, and it's not like there are many RTS-style games for the DS (or 3DS) either. Plus the Wii U controller's screen will have something like four times the area as the DS's screen, which would really help.

Maybe a downloadable title for the Wii U? That could be a good compromise, and you wouldn't have to pay $50 (or $60) on something that you play mostly on the controller.

But yes, I would take an RTS on the Wii (U) anyday. Hell, just remake Little King's Story with IR support, and I'll buy it in a heartbeat.

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#5 PoindeJ
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Kirby games are pretty good for youngsters, too. There are four DS ones -- Kirby Canvas Curse, Kirby Super Star Ultra (a remake of the SNES game), Kirby Squeak Squad, and Kirby Mass Attack. I've only played Canvas Curse (and loved it), but Super Star Ultra or Squeak Squad are probably also great fits. Mass Attack might be a little hard for a 5 year-old.

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#6 PoindeJ
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Wow, Level-5 has been on a tear lately. Fantasy Life, Time Travelers, and this too? (Plus Professor Layton) If anything, it's Level-5's support that makes me want to get a 3DS more than anything else.

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#7 PoindeJ
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@Pointdej

3DS launched in Japan at 25,000 Yen ($306.19)

Retail Prices for gamescosts as much as4800-6090 Yen ($58.79 - $74.59).

I can't believe sheep are bashing Sony for this but not Ninty.

nitekids2004

I know this, nitekids -- which is precisely why I didn't compare directly to US prices. Did you even read my post?

Instead, I compared the announced Japanese Vita game prices to Japanese PS3 game prices. I am not saying that PS Vita games are definitely going to cost $60, as we're not gonna know for sure until Sony announces US prices. But I am saying that, if in Japan some Vita games cost as much as new PS3 games, that does not bode well at all. If Sony brings that pricing pattern to the US, we could see some Vita games costing $60.

Although, it does seem that Japanese game pricing is all over the place, looking at Amazon Japan. 5,980 yen does seem to be on the low side for PS3 games. Even the standalone (well, with the CD) version of Skyward Sword costs 6,800 yen.

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#8 PoindeJ
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[QUOTE="PoindeJ"]

If we're lucky, we might still get an RTS game, because the Wii U controller's touch screen might lend itself very well to RTS-style gameplay. In fact, Pikmin 3 might make good use of it.

But the rest of them... yeah, you're probably right. Sadly.

goblaa

See, I'm not convinced it will though. It's going to be really akward looking up at your TV and tapping things on your controller's touch screen. I mean, the reason games like kirby canvas curse and phantom hourglass work is because the game is on the touch screen, so you can look to see where you are tapping. I think there's a logistical issue here most people are forgetting.

With the wiimote at least you have an on-screen curser.

You wouldn't need to look back and forth -- you could just look at the controller. The TV could stream whatever's on the screen right to the controller, where you could see everything and then input commands. Heck, this could be one of those games where you could turn the TV off and just play on the controller.
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If we're lucky, we might still get an RTS game, because the Wii U controller's touch screen might lend itself very well to RTS-style gameplay. In fact, Pikmin 3 might make good use of it.

But the rest of them... yeah, you're probably right. Sadly.

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#10 PoindeJ
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The yen to dollar ratio isn't exactly telling in this case, you should wait for Sony's official announcement of Vita retail game pricing before you start jumping to conclusions

KevinPlanet

This is true. We should instead be looking at Japanese PS3 game prices to compare. However, that doesn't inspire much confidence either:

http://www.siliconera.com/2011/09/06/right-now-this-uncharted-3-controller-is-just-for-japan/

"The Uncharted 3 controller comes bundled with a copy of the PlayStation 3 game for 9,980 yen ($130). A standalone game costs 5,980 yen ($78 ). Both will come out on November 2 in Japan."

So in Japan, a new first-party PS3 retail game costs 5,980 yen, and Vita retail games are set to be released at the same price.

Doesn't look very good, guys. Also, I have a sneaking suspicion that Sony is only offering a discount for digital downloads because they want to keep people from buying/selling used games.