@Chutebox: and the vast majority of pro athletes are Christians. It's not that hard to figure out.
And you know that how? Not agreeing with that lifestyle doesn't mean someone is homophobic either.
What? Do I have to prove americans are mostly christians? And it's not a lifestyle.
What? You do realize that a shit ton of pro athletes weren't born in the US right? And most likely the majority doesn't even practice the religion they grew up on. It's a lifestyle imo so yea, agree to disagree.
In the NFL? Extremely few. And saying it's a lifestyle is just silly. How does a sexual preference is supposed to define your entire life? What that sounds like to me is that if you learn that someone is gay, you won't be able to see past that. And you'll let that singular thing affect your entire perception of that person.
@Chutebox: Dungy is homophobic but he knows he can't get away with homophobia in public. My point is, homophobia is still very prevalent in the sports world. Anyone arguing otherwise is delusional. Michael Sam's publicly declaring he's gay wouldn't be a big deal if homophobia wasn't a big deal in the first place. There are plenty of Christians who believes homosexuality is a sin and the vast majority of pro athletes are Christians. It's not that hard to figure out.
But why is who buddy sleeps with so important? It's football. Let's be honest, if he wasn't gay then he most likely would of never got drafted. He's undersized. There's been plenty of other gay NFL players i'm sure but they chose to keep it quiet. Your sexual orientation doesn't mean shit when you're playing sports. Why make a big deal of it? And kissing his man on national tv was definitely stupid & uncalled for. You can't in any way at all compare this to Jackie Robinson man. The Rams REALLY wanted the attention I guess. What a circus.
Because we supposedly live in a world pitching equality, yet you have players who have felt the need to hide their sexual orientation over the course of their careers. That is absolutely a big deal, and an even bigger one in sports where there is a stigma for this type of stuff.
As for him kissing his boyfriend, who cares? Why is it uncalled for? Because you're uncomfortable by it? It's on ESPN for replaying it so many times, he did what a bunch of straight players do. Celebrate with their loved ones. Complaining about that is just as stupid as those idiots who go "my kids had to see that, how am I suppose to explain that to my kids?"
What I'm sorry? you had to do your job as a parent. You had to explain a part of life to your child? lol
I'm sure plenty of teammates of past & present gay players knew/know of their sexual orientation. But why have we not heard anything about this before then ? Probably because it's really not a big fucking deal. You gotta love the media man lol. A stigma ? Maybe for fans, but for the majority of players it's probably really not.
As for the tv pda, it's just my opinion. You know what they say about those.
I have mixed feelings. Someone had to come out and do this, with the hope that it won't ever be a big deal again. On the other hand, I think it's unnecessary to reveal that to the world, it's totally irrelevant to football. And he says that he wants to be treated like everyone else, which is BS. No other 7th round draft pick gets an Oprah documentary, so stop it.
As for the kissing thing, it's ESPN's fault for trying to be edgy and show it a million times. One time is fine, he should be allowed to celebrate with the one he loves, just stop shoving it down my throat. With any luck, a player being gay in the future won't ever matter again.
Why is it a big deal? The ONLY ones making this a big deal are hollywood and the media. That's it.
I have mixed feelings. Someone had to come out and do this, with the hope that it won't ever be a big deal again. On the other hand, I think it's unnecessary to reveal that to the world, it's totally irrelevant to football. And he says that he wants to be treated like everyone else, which is BS. No other 7th round draft pick gets an Oprah documentary, so stop it.
As for the kissing thing, it's ESPN's fault for trying to be edgy and show it a million times. One time is fine, he should be allowed to celebrate with the one he loves, just stop shoving it down my throat. With any luck, a player being gay in the future won't ever matter again.
The issue is that homosexuality is a big taboo in locker rooms. Any gay players are feeling forced to hide a large part of their lives. So it's a big deal to try to get rid of that nonsense.
Hey, did you guys know Michael Sam was gay and he was drafted?
I actually like Sam, thought it was a historic and nice moment, and hope he does well, but ESPN is just cramming it down our throats... no pun intended. I especially don't want to hear about it during a timeout in the NBA playoffs.
I was really hoping the guy wouldn't get drafted. What a let down.
That would have been the worst thing that could have happened. Instead of discussing him getting drafted we'd have the media discussing whether or not the NFL is homophobic or if he was blacklisted or anything of that nature. It's honestly the sort of thing that's more important to the media than the general ESPN-viewer, but pretending he's just "some seventh round pick" and ignoring all of the implications of this story is wrong as well. It's not Jackie Robinson by any means, but it is an important step for building tolerance/acceptance and the moment is not something that's going to be forgotten.
I think after people get over the initial shock and realize that the locker room is just fine, the talk will settle down and he can settle into his career. That being said there's going to be a lot of bullshit speculation, scrutiny and over analysis due to him being the first and the media wanting their to be an issue within the league. We saw that this weekend when hundreds of players responses of acceptance and good will got almost no coverage compared to Don Jones' and Marshall Henderson's ignorance on twitter.
But why is who buddy sleeps with so important? It's football. Let's be honest, if he wasn't gay then he most likely would of never got drafted. He's undersized. There's been plenty of other gay NFL players i'm sure but they chose to keep it quiet. Your sexual orientation doesn't mean shit when you're playing sports. Why make a big deal of it? And kissing his man on national tv was definitely stupid & uncalled for. You can't in any way at all compare this to Jackie Robinson man. The Rams REALLY wanted the attention I guess. What a circus.
He was the SEC defensive co-MVP. How is that not good enough to be drafted? If anything, the teams are so dead scared of the media circus that it's probably why he fell so late in the draft.
So? Tim Tebow won the Heisman Trophy in 2007. What happened next? He bottomed out of the NFL. Just because you won some award in college football doesn't mean you're cut out for the pros...
But the point is that he was given a shot to succeed.
Hey, did you guys know Michael Sam was gay and he was drafted?
I actually like Sam, thought it was a historic and nice moment, and hope he does well, but ESPN is just cramming it down our throats... no pun intended. I especially don't want to hear about it during a timeout in the NBA playoffs.
I was really hoping the guy wouldn't get drafted. What a let down.
That would have been the worst thing that could have happened. Instead of discussing him getting drafted we'd have the media discussing whether or not the NFL is homophobic or if he was blacklisted or anything of that nature. It's honestly the sort of thing that's more important to the media than the general ESPN-viewer, but pretending he's just "some seventh round pick" and ignoring all of the implications of this story is wrong as well. It's not Jackie Robinson by any means, but it is an important step for building tolerance/acceptance and the moment is not something that's going to be forgotten.
I think after people get over the initial shock and realize that the locker room is just fine, the talk will settle down and he can settle into his career. That being said there's going to be a lot of bullshit speculation, scrutiny and over analysis due to him being the first and the media wanting their to be an issue within the league. We saw that this weekend when hundreds of players responses of acceptance and good will got almost no coverage compared to Don Jones' and Marshall Henderson's ignorance on twitter.
But why is who buddy sleeps with so important? It's football. Let's be honest, if he wasn't gay then he most likely would of never got drafted. He's undersized. There's been plenty of other gay NFL players i'm sure but they chose to keep it quiet. Your sexual orientation doesn't mean shit when you're playing sports. Why make a big deal of it? And kissing his man on national tv was definitely stupid & uncalled for. You can't in any way at all compare this to Jackie Robinson man. The Rams REALLY wanted the attention I guess. What a circus.
He was the SEC defensive co-MVP. How is that not good enough to be drafted? If anything, the teams are so dead scared of the media circus that it's probably why he fell so late in the draft.
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