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#1  Edited By Revan_911
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Seems legit?

Also what the hell is gamespot /ign doing. They have no stake in this. Come out and say "We don't support harrassement, we don't think all gamers are trash".


Why is this so hard?

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Trending on twitter. A lot of harass and hate from the underground "indie" community. Developers I've never heard off that take themselves too serously. Wonder if they made a decent game between the hundreds of them. Decent indie games usually get mainstream coverage right?

As far as I can understand from the mess twitter they think gaming is holding them back and that it should be art. They think gamers are stupid man-children and that gaming needs to grow up. Remember Phil Twitter breakdowns "GAMERS ARE SHIT YOU DON'T DESERVE MY GAME". It's obvious that this idea has been going on in their community for a long time, tons of discussions about it.

If you can read between the lines of these articles, you can see that they want that. Some kind of Gamer +, where gender politics and social messages are the goal, not making the game fun. Something like the modern art of gaming. "underground indie sites" like Polygon or RPS, Gamasutra. They've been shitting on everything not indie for years. They also want E-sports to go away.

Only problem is they think they're intelectually and morally superior to everyone while in fact they're hypocrites and shit people. They work in cliques, sleep with each other, give each other awards, tied with close friendships. Do you know that two indie developers were immediately blacklisted just because they took a neutral stance? They're shit. Look at their tweets. Full of hate and contempt. These are not the people to bring reform in gaming not that i can be brought. They also have support from indie music guys and some indie movie guys. A lot of indie people that haven't touched a video game in their life

I just don't know why are they stupid enough to think that they can accomplish this? Mainstream movie media didn't shit on all the audience when indie movies got big. What is wrong with these people. Who the hell is stopping them from making "art".

Either way these assholes may have greatly damaged the reputation of video games because it's trending on twitter and everyone are going to spin the story to fit their agenda.

Sexist mysogynerds on one set, feminist bullies on the other

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Are you a bigot? I am not

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbQk5YqjO0E&list=UU4_bwov47DseacR1-ttTdOg

Spread it around. Tell everyone. Don't let them paint this picture of gamers to the public

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#4  Edited By Revan_911
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Boogie is not a bigot. Are you?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbQk5YqjO0E&list=UU4_bwov47DseacR1-ttTdOg

Spread this around. Tell everyone. Don't let them paint this picture of gamers and get away.

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#5  Edited By Revan_911
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@harry_james_pot said:

While the fact that Anita is getting threats is in no way acceptable, maybe if she stops the bullshit and focus on an actual issue she would attract less trolls. I'm all for better representation of women in games, but holy crap have you seen her videos? Absolutely ridiculous stuff..

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@double_decker:

>>Willing to commit a crime

Willing to commit a crime is different than tweeting about it. How many women have been killed over gaming again? How many developers in general have been killed over gaming? Any journalists?

Jack Thompson got death threats. He's suing Kotaku over ones right now. He had studies about video games and critique about video games. Where were you outraged people then.

Yeah exactly! He was using the same kind of nonsense and people laughed at him.. He got death threats and no one cared. But if you call out a woman for doing the same thing, you're sexist.. >_>

Call me sexist but this is it. This is what it's about. Two women who have been proven dishonest and manipulative are making a circus out of the video game industry. Backed up by video game journalists. And they are afraid to call them out on their bullshit because they're women. Because they are afraid to be labeled as sexist.

I'm not an American and I don't understand this.

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@double_decker said:

@Revan_911: Just the threat is a crime... thankfully most of the time that is all they are

Anita said she contacted the police before she tweeted about it while fleeing her house. These police calls should be public domain yet no one was able to track down that call.

After people called her out she tweeted that Police don't know how to handle tweeter threats. And they didn't take her seriosly.

Then this gem.

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@double_decker:

>>Willing to commit a crime

Willing to commit a crime is different than tweeting about it. How many women have been killed over gaming again? How many developers in general have been killed over gaming? Any journalists?

Jack Thompson got death threats. He's suing Kotaku over ones right now. He had studies about video games and critique about video games. Where were you outraged people then.

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@biggest_loser said:

I find that a lot more concerning than mere speculation, because we don't have all the facts, that this girl slept with people for coverage.

Whenever someone farts in the industry you hear about it on gaming media (not really my words).

We have had a case of everyone reporting sexual abuse of female developer at Stardock, even zoe tweeted about this (was proven false at court, the dev apologized, journalists and Zoe never did).

They claimed Zoe was harassed on the internet by Wizardchan (before the entire drama) without any proof whatsoever.Guy at escapist said they didn't need any prove. They vilified Wizardchan and all the suicidal depressed people on there without fact checking.

They didn't want to report on the entire TFYC a charity campaign to get more women in gaming. These people said, enough complaining lets actually get more women in gaming. They didn't want to report and that and get them coverage because "Zoe said it was sexist"

I remember an article on gamespot about some developer arrested for having you know pornography on his hard drive.

Yet nothing on this...Suddenly these people have standards. Suddenly it's too personal.

She slept with a journalist and a guy on an awards board where she won an award (Play the game please and see how award worthy it really is).

Zero coverage. Failing to own up. No responsibility. I didn't care then. About any of it. I avoided the threads.

But instead of owning up they come up with the entire gamers are dead and sexist thing. Absolutely disgusting.

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#9  Edited By Revan_911
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Ok lets take System Wars people argue with each other, troll each other lot of heated comments. But it's about scores, about consoles, exclusives. And this place is considered really bad by some.

But do you think any of them has been abusive to a woman just because she's a women on the internet? Even less in real life? Some gamers are immature , a lot of them are underaged, and everything on the internet can be terrible where it's impossible to moderate (youtube comments for example). I think it's the way internet has always been and it has nothing to do with gamers being inherently sexist .

Most just want to play video games. Can't we just play video games without going on websites that tell us we're terrible human beings and sexist pigs. Feel bad for what other people have tweeted, be self loathing.

No thanks. I want everyone on the internet to be respectul with each other and have well thought out arguments. Never going to happen.

I'm gonna be honest here I would not admit this on a normal forum. I've been visiting the infamous 4chan for years, various boards from music to video games to sports.So I should be immune to anything on the internet right? Wrong. The way "progressive people" , people who stand for "social justice", people with hipster glasses and funny colored hair behave on twitter made me cry,literally and lose all hope in the future. Infinitely worse than "gamers" or /v/,

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@biggest_loser said:

If you don't want politics associated with gaming don't ever let me hear you trying to argue that games are art. You can't have it both ways.

This whole thing about journalistic integrity vs. unlawful gamer responses has been building for years.

People are beating their drums over Quinn by applaud politely when a mediocre big budget game receives some epic score from sites like IGN. No one blinks on there because its what they want to hear.

The real issue isn't whether whatever she's showing is real or not. We know how self-entitled and reactionary people in this industry are, like writing abusive comments because they don't agree with an article or a review score. Is anyone really going to contest that gamers are like that? A line in the sand was going to be drawn eventually.

This industry is burning. You've brought it on yourselves.

How is that not the issue? All gaming media turned against their audience. Some with straight attacking us, others with silence, others with just half facts. And now we find out that one of the two women involved is a professional victim despite being a bad human being. How is that not the problem? THAT's literally all it took?

Weren't women there when the industry was founded? Didn't they helped shaped it despite fewer numbers? How the **** are suddenly all gamers sexists, when we're bigger and more diverse than ever. Don't study shows that girl gamers are ever growing?

Also, do you have a solution to the problem?