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I agree, however it severely discredits Genesis, one of the most important books of the bible. (Like I said, I'm not Athiest, so I'm trying to play Devil's Advocate here)

LJS9502_basic

I disagree. It was ALWAYS meant to be taken literally by the Christians, who preach black and white interpretation of the bible. The Catholics are the one who adopted that rule of "personal interpretation," which is what I personally believe.

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OK heres the story and dont laugh. İ really liked this girl 2 years ago and my friend told me she liked me back but i didnt have the guts to ask her out. Then a year passed by and i wanted to ask her but she seemed like REALLY uninterested then and she was mad at me for some reason i dont even know. Then i got expelled for not tucking in my shirt so i didnt have an chance to talk to her. Now, since both of us are from the same country that like NOBODY else is in America and we both went to that country for the summer and i talked to her on facebook and she gave me her number and i called her and she said we should meet up soon so where should i take her? İ am full of confıdence now but i just wanted to know where you take a girl that is your friend that you will try to make into your girlfriend but you dont know if she still likes you.

Please help i put a lot of thought in this post and please dont say blog it. Thanks for all inputs.

angryguywalking

what?!

Thats what i sed to that principle :(

What the hell school did you go to? Hitler's Youth camp???

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Just because a theory can't be completely 100% proven (or disproven, i.e. Athiests) doesn't make it irrational. Athiests use massive amounts of scientific evidence to draw their conclusions. While I'm not Athiest, I wouldn''t be so blunt as to call them irrational.

LJS9502_basic

So I guess we're conveniently disregarding the evidence pointing towards evolution?

I agree, however it severely discredits Genesis, one of the most important books of the bible. (Like I said, I'm not Athiest, so I'm trying to play Devil's Advocate here)

OK heres the story and dont laugh. İ really liked this girl 2 years ago and my friend told me she liked me back but i didnt have the guts to ask her out. Then a year passed by and i wanted to ask her but she seemed like REALLY uninterested then and she was mad at me for some reason i dont even know. Then i got expelled for not tucking in my shirt so i didnt have an chance to talk to her. Now, since both of us are from the same country that like NOBODY else is in America and we both went to that country for the summer and i talked to her on facebook and she gave me her number and i called her and she said we should meet up soon so where should i take her? İ am full of confıdence now but i just wanted to know where you take a girl that is your friend that you will try to make into your girlfriend but you dont know if she still likes you.

Please help i put a lot of thought in this post and please dont say blog it. Thanks for all inputs.

angryguywalking

what?!

[QUOTE="RiSkyBiZ-13"]

Just because a theory can't be completely 100% proven (or disproven, i.e. Athiests) doesn't make it irrational. Athiests use massive amounts of scientific evidence to draw their conclusions. While I'm not Athiest, I wouldn''t be so blunt as to call them irrational.

fanofazrienoch

So I guess we're conveniently disregarding the evidence pointing towards evolution?

I've been seeing previews everywhere for it, and my friends wanted to see it but it looked like utter crap to me. Seriously I dont know if the acting is ment to be terrible on purpose. It looks like its trying too hard to be somewhat realistic. So as with Jumper, Fantastic 4 and a few other movies, I refuse to ever watch it.freek666

Talk about judging a book by it's cover... The Happening was a good movie.

Here's the only thing you need to acknowledge to know that atheism is irrational; it is possible that God and heaven exists.

That's it. You don't have to think that it's necessary that he exists or even that it's probable that he exists, just that there is some minute chance that he does exist.

If you grant God's possible existence then you must also grant the possible existence of an eternal afterlife in heaven (or hell). Now the rational person whose goal is to continue existing as long and as happily as possible knows that chosing to believe in and worship God yields a greater expected outcome than not. You can work it out with probability yourself if you want but here's how it basically goes.

The theist risks a finite amount of time (mortal life of worship and devotion to God) for an infinite gain (immortality in heaven).

The atheist risks an infinite consequence (eternity in hell) for a finite gain (life as an atheist).

It's pretty obvious that the atheist has made a foolish option, he has foregone delayed but ultimate joy for immediate transient pleasure. Pretty immature choice I reckon.

Godly_Warrior

Just because a theory can't be completely 100% proven (or disproven, i.e. Athiests) doesn't make it irrational. Athiests use massive amounts of scientific evidence to draw their conclusions. While I'm not Athiest, I wouldn''t be so blunt as to call them irrational.