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#1 RidersInThe-Sky
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I hate to be the negative one but I never cared for Chaos at all. Every time I hatch one the first thing it wants to do is learn how to swim so it ends up nearly drowning itself in the pond. After I drag him out and let him cry the fear out of his system, I go out to bring him some food and come back to find what exactly? That's right, he crawls right back over to the pool to repeat the process again. Like children, they're small, annoying, and something I have no patience for.
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Kbaily, I think your confusing the American Archie published comic book series with the European "Sonic the Comic" published by Fleetway; Here's the wikipedia article . As you can see, SatAm influenced some of it's later story elements, but the 2 series are radically different.
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I just don't see the comparison. The Batman movies may have bombed at one time but once the license was given to a competent director (Christopher Nolan), the franchise was rebooted too successfully fix old mistakes.

Sonic is nowhere near as complex as Batman or as big of a comercial bomb. Sonic games are aimed at young audiences so the stories don't impact the final product as much and furthermore, a large chunk of the fanbase is retarded enough to buy and praise everything to come out of the franchise so no matter how bad the series gets, it will always be a successful cash cow making a "The Dark Knight" like return to form highly unlikely.

So what I'm basically saying here is that the key difference between these 2 is Sonic is still making money and it will probably never put out a triple A title again.

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I did like "Adventures" as a kid because unlike SatAM it actually did things based on the game. Tails was Sonic's sidekick and the only other character and included aspects like rings and Emeralds but yeah, it was clearly geared at the same younger audience who likes Spongebob and Yo Gabba Gabba (meaning stoners probably watch it too) but you gotta love the Tumble Dryer lesson which is funny. But the animation was lazy (though a lot shows have lazy animation these days, even in CG).

The chili dog thing was also in SatAM but more subtile, like in the episode where he was staying with Antoine and cooking for him. The chili dog thing in Sonic's cartoons was like the italian food thing in Mario's cartoons. At the time, Sonic had do whatever Mario did but be cooler.

Still for a kid's show,SatAM had good writing and likeable characters and Eggman was actually evil instead of just a bumbling villan, but let's face it, the show has barely any resemblece to the games. Tails has less screen time than Christopher Reed in the last Lord of the Rings movie and takes back seat to a bunch of characters that never existed in the games though at the time, all the series had was Sonic, Tails and Robotnick and needed some other pals to interact with.

And I still blame SatAM for putting the idea in Sega's head that Sonic could have deep and serious storylines. (it cracks me up the people who love SatAM but hate the idea of Sonic's games having deep story. A bit contradictory I would say.) Not that Sonic games couldn't tell a good story but Sega failed to do something smart like...say hire the comic or SatAM writers to write the story for the games as well as competent dialouge for the characters.

I'd like him to review the totally nonsensical Sonic Underground. Which has almost nothing to do with Sonic except that he's in it.

I still wish for a more happy medium in Sonic's shows. The writing and artwork of SatAm, along with being more like the games with Adventures. At first Sonic X looked to be that happy medium. Featuring characters from the games, being well drawn and having something to do with the games, however as we all know, it suffered from the horrid 4Kids dub work and of course that annoying cancer that spread and infected the show named Chris Thorndyke.

And let's get this straight right now. THERE WILL NEVER BE A SONIC GAME BASED ON SATAM OR THE COMICS SO STOP WRITING LETTERS ALREADY. The world of the Sonic comics is totally separate from the games, plus I found the comics got a bit weird after a while. Sonic went to space for a few years and came back. Sonic found his parents but his dad's a robot but his mom's not. Sonic and Tails had a falling out I guess. Sonic and Sally did date but broke up and there's this love triangle with him and Amy and Sally. Then there's another hedgehog named Scourge who's more evil than Shadow and has a robot double of himself and Sally's computer Nicole, I guess somehow came to life and is a person and now and OH CHRIST! I can't go on! This sh-- is bananas!

kbaily

The reason I love SatAM is because it was a different interpretation of the games. They took the then plotless games and gave their elements a logical background (why does Sonic collect rings, what's his vendetta against Robotnik, etc.) and the comics expanded that, adding in the special zones and even acknowledging the game series' existance (in the Comic continuity, Reality is split into an infinite amount of alternate Universes, including a nega-verse, Underground, Adventures, and even the games anchored to the prime universe (comics)). In my opinion the Comics are closer to what the franchise should be than the games are by virtue that they're drawn in a light hearted style and never get deeper than a really good Saturday Morning cartoon series.

And regarding the deep storyline bit, you can't really compare the 2 because the mediums are entirely different. The Comics are interesting because they build on the series lore in a unique way unseen in the games, it's very much a different universe. This comic has been around for over a decade now and because it's a comic, it has to develop like any standard comic book, using story arcs, rotating characters, bringing in new enemies, changing settings, etc. This may seem overly complex but as a comic book fan I assure you Sonic the Hedgehog is far from being a deep, mind bending read; it just develops differently from the games because it isn't a game series.

Finally the reason this type of development wouldn't work in the games is because as much as we want to believe that videogames are an artform on par with painting or literature, they are first and foremost supposed to be fun; GAMEPLAY ABOVE ALL ELSE. SatAM works as a Cartoon series and a Comic book, but in terms of gameplay, would you rather watch a 5 minute cutscene on the politics of a fictional world inhabited by anthropomorphic animals or run at 300 mile per hour at dizzying heights for a rush you may never feel in real life? Videogames are meant to be played not watched and that is why Nobody cares about the storylines in the games, because they aren't supposed to be an engaging part of the experience, thus anything in the vain of SatAM would, 8 chances out of 10, be a terrible game.

Also, I was actually hoping he would reference this disturbing tidbit

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CcrtkiLEGbE

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http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/thatguywiththeglasses/nostalgia-critic/4762-adventures-of-sonic-the-hedgehog

Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog = A bit harsh but I agree none the less, any and all charm in this show is purely fan nostalgia. I absolutely loved this show as a kid but only realized how lame it was after revisiting it last year. It's just too random for its own good without being creative what so ever. Still, It's better than Sonic X.

SatAM = Now I remember why I read the Comics. They gave me the resolution that I so desperately sought after the show "ended". Like its predecessor, it suffers from a bit of age but unlike its predecessor, its still interesting.

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I don't know, after last year I think the concept is played out. Besides, when you go back to look at it, it sounds pretty ridiculous.
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#7 RidersInThe-Sky
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So I dropped a level and there's nothing I can do to gain it back?
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Black Doom, purely because he's the only real villain of the list. Robotnik's had a good year for the first time since Adventure 2 but all those years of comic relief have destroyed nearly any sense of malevolence he had, Metal Sonic is more of a rival to Sonic than a global threat, Erazor Djinn never feels threatning, and the rest of the list is a bunch of lame monster movie rejects that could barely think for themselves. Black Doom was competent, self-serving, and went through anyone to achieve his mission. Say all you will about Shadow the Hedgehog, but you can't ask for much more out of an antagonist.
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[QUOTE="whoozwah"]the platforming and combat were still there though right? It may have been presented in a different way but underneath it all, the gameplay was still satisfying imo. It's basically the same thing you'd have to do with a sonic game. The gameplay (at times) is still satisfying so who cares why you're doing what you're doing as long as it's fun.GabuEx

Well, I dunno, having a reason for why I'm doing something does make the game more funfor me. Doing stuff for the sake of doing it is all right, but I can get into a game much more if there's some end goal in the plot I'm achieving by doing so. As I've said before, that was really the biggest problem I had with the night levels in Sonic Unleashed: not the gameplay itself, but rather the fact that the only point to every single level was "get to the end". They were completely and totally unrelated to the actual plot.

You're not alone, I enjoyed Shadow the Hedgehog as well. It was stupid in concept but I actually enjoyed the game and its story (despite the obvious failed attempts to be edgy). It was a solid platformer that I wouldn't have payed $50 for but I was happy on Christmas 2005.

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#10 RidersInThe-Sky
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If you guys do animated series reviews (like the OVA) I could make a review on the SatAm series box set. I know it sounds stupid but if you want me to do it, just let me know and I'll write one over my vacation.