[QUOTE="DarkCatalyst"]My oponion is that wether it's a brawler, wrestling, or Street Fighteresque they're all fighting games, but maybe I'm wrong and there's a defenition written somewhere out there that if it doesn't follow a formula of being extremely close fighting then it's not a fighter. If that's the case, then Smash is not a fighter even though it plays out like one in several ways.
As for Evo, Smash was destined to fail there because Evo is ignorant on Smash. They made a tournament with items on and smash balls and no care for stages. You don't have to listen past their commentators to understand how ignorant they were. They had no idea what to do with Smash because they know nothing about it.
[QUOTE="ASK_Story"]
I noticed that a lot of those who argue Smash Brawl is a legitimate fighting game also claim Naruto Ninja Storm is better than Street Fighter IV. This is what I noticed from a recent poll I made about SFIV in System Wars. It also shows where their taste is at.
There's nothing wrong with having opinions or liking a game better than the other. I have no problems with that. It just irks me a little when they say they hate SFIV when they never even played it or took the time to learn how to play.
So in other words, debating about this will go nowhere. We can try to discuss this over 1000 posts and we still won't convince the Brawl fans to change their minds.
R0cky_Racc00n
Where do you get these ideas from? You're probably asking the wrong demographic and applying that to the whole community. I can't even believe this. I've played Street Fighter since Street Fighter II and almost all Smash fans I know appreciate Street Fighter.
I love that I can probably beat the snot out of the vast majority of the Smash-as-Fighter people who say things like this at Smash. As though, because I am smart enough to realize that Smash is not a fighting game (and it's all the better for it), I must not understand what Smash is all about. I actually kick a lot of heads off in Smash. So do you. Oh, and so does DeShae (who also realized Smash is not a fighting game). I can link to vids of DeShae - a die-hard fighting gamer - eating people alive in Smash, if anyone wants to know if I'm bluffing.
ShenlongBo
Any experienced fighting fan can probably pick up Smash and after 30 minutes figure out how to beat the very casual players. Let's see what you can do against those that know the depth of Smash and have experience in competitive matches. Anybody can brag like that over the internet, so your opinion means nothing.You're right about what you said to DC. Your opinion on the matter has no bearing on the facts of the matter. Say what you want, there is a definition for what a fighting game is, so when it comes to objective ****fication, your interpretation... "means nothing."As for what you said to me, yeah. Blah blah, right? I must be beating the "very casual players" only, and using that to base my assessment of my own skill on. For one, what I said was that I could probably beat the stuffing out of most people like you, and I say that because I have beaten the stuffing out of most people like you (the ones who won't let go of the fact that Smash is not, never was, and will not ever be a fighting game) who I've had the pleasure of playing against. This has included a legion of very strong Smash players (perhaps not the elite, but very strong), and there's really no doubting that when I mix it up with other Smash enthusiasts, I very often - almost always - come out on top.
Second, as promised, here's a link to ONE vid of DeShae (FieryLair) wrecking people on Smash, and this is one of the dudes I keep pace with. You flat do NOT see this at a "casual" level, whether you want to believe that or not. By all means, click through all his vids and see for yourself.
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