LOL. Is this the epitome of sad? Obligatory links:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324001104578163841987546704.html

http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2288003

So to sum it up, AMD pays Globalfoundries to reduce their wafer commitment. In laymens terms: They can't sell enough products and don't want to be obligated to buy excess wafers so they're paying GF for a termination fee.

Paying someone in order to make less products, that is awesome. Just awesome. AMD... the gradually forming black hole slowly imploding within. Will this incompetently run company make it to Q1 2014 at this rate? Stay tuned.

In a gaming forum where Intel trumps AMD in gaming, I dont understand why some people are so quick to jump to AMD saying "Oh Oh but its better on some things". Clock per clock, an Intel core trumps an AMD core. The only place AMD 8 "core" cpus do well ishighly threaded integer based calculations. Which is why they are good server cpus. Gaming, like it or not, has a lot offloating point calculations, so since 2 cores are needed for one floating point calcuation, you are essentially a 4 core CPU, and then you take into account that clock per clock, Intel cores are faster, and OC better than AMDs, theres really no comparison for gaming.

way2funny

Dude, you're not allowed to bring logic into this thread. Haven't you heard? AMD homerism rules supreme.

I'm a Torchlight and Grim Dawn fan.

pacific90

Awesome necro dude.

[QUOTE="SolidPandaG"]

Going Intel is the wise choice. Accept no substitutes. There's no room for sympathy towards a second tier CPU company like AMD.

04dcarraher

Idealism has no place in the business world. I couldn't care less about the ethos of it as long as Intel delivers a superior product, which they do. For customers who operate on a mindset of irrationality, that's their prerogative. Me? I'll continue to leave emotion out of consumer purchases and simply decide what to get based on who delivers a better product.

Going Intel is the wise choice. Accept no substitutes. There's no room for sympathy towards a second tier CPU company like AMD.

Powerhouse... right.

China claims a lot of things but this is one of their more ridiculous ones to date. Pencil me in as someone who's more interested in seeing walk than talk. This is very reminicent of AMD market lingo: blowing nothing but hot air.

Does anyone remember other companies that made bold claims:

-Lucid Hydra and their alternative to SLI/crossfire

-IBM's RISC architecture back in the 90's.

-Sony's Cell processor and how it would revolutionize task scheduling by streamlining media and vector computations through the marriage of its SPE and PPE modules.

-The list goes on...

Intel dominates the CPU industry not only because they they've been at this for a very long time and because of their hyper-aggressive tick-tock cadence/schedule, but because they invest many of their profits into new fabs. Unlike tech giants Apple, Microsoft and Google, who sit on large piles of cash reserves, Intel puts those huge margins back to work to churn out bleeding edge fabs:

http://www.eetimes.com/electronics-news/4373886/Intel-confirms-Ireland-for-14-nm-silicon

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/intel-fab42-14nm-cpu-factory,14545.html

A lot of people in the CPU industry just see Intel as a designer of CPU's but much of their strength lies in their ability to churn out the best wafers, that's why their x86 instruction set, though inferior and bloated in many ways to several other architectures, knocked out rivals like PowerPC back in the late 90's/early 00's.

You can have all the ambitious design you like when it comes to making a chip, but if you can't implement those ideas into a superior process, then all it becomes is a long stream of great ideas never achieving potential. China claims these are low cost, but is the trade off for power/efficiency and productivity worth it, especially when electricity is a commodity to the meager markets they envision themselves catering to?

intel and ARM may soon be in a very interesting race. china's government happens to own its own cpu deisgner and fabrication facilities and they claim to have a low cost, chip thats superior to arm cpu's and rivals many intel server options on their modern sockets. while these cpu's dont have official microsoft support they can run linux and this could put china one of the alrgest markets for cpu's in serious danger of being stolen by chinese centered and gov't controller buisness

ionusX

Sometimes I wonder where you learned to type... Reading some of your posts is like rinsing your eyes with vinegar.

All this means (if any of this contains any ounce of truth) is that Intel is setting itself up to squeeze motherboard makers out of the industry like when they shut nVidia out of the chipset market. Less reliance on outside suppliers = higher margins. As node cadence shrinks further and further and the space between transisters decreases, Intel is able to squeeze more components onto the die itself. You saw this first with the memory controller moving on die and GPU too.

Intel will be looking to transition the PCH on die after Haswell with Skylake @ 14nm. Whether this relegates motherboards to connect board status only at that stage or further remains to be seen. There will be a day when they no longer have to have segmentations of various devices that join up together, everything will fit under one roof, under a single power envelope.

If one company can pull it off, it's Big Blue of course since their fabs are superior to any others out there.

the successors to intel's haswell lineup have had some interesting details emerge. based on infor ecieved from intel itself skylake and broadwell have been demoted to SoC (mobile and low power, carved up soldered-to-board desktop cpu's) chips rather than true cpu's and nothing has been put in there place. this would mean that after haswell there is a 2gen cpu gap with nothing to fill it.

this would mean that 2014 is intel's great departure from the consumer desktop market for good in favor of the mobile markets specifically atm it appears that ultrabooks are where their focus will be as well as trying to do something to save their smartphone market which is atm non-existant thanks to medfield being a dismal faliure across the board.

this is further compounded by intel's roadmap stating that in 2014 (likely late that year) haswell would be pulled from production permanently. welp.. how bout dem apples??

http://wccftech.com/intel-broadwell-skylake-bga-package-intel-focused-soc-mobile-chips-mainstream-cpus/

inb4solidpanda bububu my desktop!!

ionusX

Old news is old. Keep up will ya? More discussion of this here:

http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2284670

1. The posted article is nothing but conjecture at this point.

2. Even if they focus less on the desktop segment, they'll still be miles ahead of AMD, who may not even be around at that point. It's like sprinting in the Olympics vs a cripple. You might as well just slow down and jog to the finish line.

There was the Korean dude who died doing a marathon session of Diablo 3 also. It's all about the paragon XP.

My God man... English!