If you want to insult the hell out of the FF series, focus on the plots and story mechanics.

Terrible Story: Again, how can you argue opinion? In my case, the quality of the story of latter FFs is really dependent on how well I like the characters. Example, FF8, maybe it had a good story in there, but all I can remember is hating how whiney and annoying Squall was. I hate that guy. Thus, the story of the game is forgettable to me. In other FFs, where the characters are more likable, the story is more memorable, for example in my case, FF10. I liked the cast a lot and that helped me actually  care about their story. Like any book, movie or other story telling mechanic, its a crap shoot. You either like the story or you don't.FoamingPanda

I'm sorry, but when a eight year old child stands in the middle street and looks up to a buff 7'0 black man WITH A MACHINE GUN FOR AN ARM, and says, "SRRY SIR.  U CANT GO HERE, IM NOT MOVING LOLOLOLOL," it makes my stomach churn.  FF games follow the same cliche theme (apocalytpic struggle, same character progression format, a weird twist thrown in 3/5ths through the game, dull and childish 'kyoto park on sunday afternoon' neo-tokyo looking world, etc).

Lame plot devices, anyone?

In America, until recent years, we've lacked solid and quality RPG's on consoles.  We've been spoon-fed cliche Japanese RPG's so many times, and with such force, that we thought to ourselves, "surely, since this is the only food [RPG] I can find, it MUST be good."

I wouldn't call the FF series the worst games ever.  They're certainly among the most over-rated games ever (only Zelda surpasses). 

FoamingPanda

Certainly not the 'worst' by a long-shot, but exceptionally banal and unoriginal. Caviglia

i fail to see how a series that managed to get AAA after its 12th game is a failure...lynxyx

[QUOTE="Wasdie"]No way. Just because you don't have the patients to actually enjoy those games doesn't mean they are the worst games ever. In fact, they are some of the best. They have rock solid RPG gameplay, deep intriguing stories, beautiful graphics, amazing muscial scores, and are overall really really fun for people who like to sit down and get into a game, instead of just play for 20 minutes and stop.sonicare

well said.

[QUOTE="Stonin"]

Derivative gameplay, boring fight sequences, level grinding and terrible story.

Honestly, why is this game series hyped so much? I mean watch a Manga film or read a book if you want a story. Want to grind levels? Play an MMO so you can at least boast about your achievements to others online.

Obviously this is just opinion but from the sales figures it seems most share it. I guess this is bought by hardcore JRPG fans only. Anybody want to enlighten me as to why this is going to sell systems?

mythrol

No way. Just because you don't have the patients to actually enjoy those games doesn't mean they are the worst games ever. In fact, they are some of the best. They have rock solid RPG gameplay, deep intriguing stories, beautiful graphics, amazing muscial scores, and are overall really really fun for people who like to sit down and get into a game, instead of just play for 20 minutes and stop.Wasdie

[QUOTE="Stonin"][QUOTE="Cedmln"]

"Anybody want to enlighten me as to why this is going to sell systems?"

Dude... It most likely already has... Stop seeking attention. Your whole arguement is incorrect.

StealthSting

[QUOTE="Stonin"]

Derivative gameplay, boring fight sequences, level grinding and terrible story.

Honestly, why is this game series hyped so much? I mean watch a Manga film or read a book if you want a story. Want to grind levels? Play an MMO so you can at least boast about your achievements to others online.

Obviously this is just opinion but from the sales figures it seems most share it. I guess this is bought by hardcore JRPG fans only. Anybody want to enlighten me as to why this is going to sell systems?

taker42