Decent non shooter games already out:

oblivion, overlord, viva pinata,blue dragon(yes it got a 6.0 but its still a good jrpg, just that its boring to non jrpg fans)and kameo

upcoming non-shooters

eternal sonata, mass effect, assassins creed, mass effect, heavenly sword(might tank), folklore, ratchet and clank, uncharted, viva pinata party animals, and Lost Odyssey thats really not that bad of a selection if you ask me between those two systems.

[QUOTE="xDonRobx"]

*Looks over at Blue Dragon*

I didn't know there were guns in Blue Dragon (besides in the secret base where that dude pulls the pistol out)

tidus222

i think he meant good games LOL

blue dragon = TEH BAD

i disagree just like gamespot says its a good jrpg just not very innovative, i have the game and its not like its unplayable(like for example with lair with controlling issues) it pulls of a nice cute little jrpg very nicely.

[QUOTE="SgtWhiskeyjack"]

[QUOTE="briguyb13"]Wow, I can't believe some people were hyping this GOTY. This game makes Blue Dragon look pretty good.briguyb13

Blue Dragon is pretty good, the combat is really good fun. The game just lacks a climactic finish.

yeah its a matter a preference i am actually really liking the first disk even though every review site hated it. If you like old-school jrpgs this is perfect for you.

lol and cows were making fun of us for hyping blue dragon haha at least blue dragon is passable this game is just trash.

Sales leave out subjectivity, but I care more about games. Here I woud say sales are the more viable determination of who wins and who does not.

Side note:

Too many stickies. I should not need to scroll down to read what the latest topics are. There is a difference between important information and someone just slapping a sticky on any thread they think may keep the forum clean. There was a time that stickies were trying to be limited, what happened to that concept?

-RPGamer-

qft, can we get rid of this one and the i want everyone to read this....

wow that was impressive i might need to actually get this game, i am not much of a racing fan but this looks like fun.