If Justin Bieber is in any way related to XBO I'm cancelling my pre-order.

Just saying MS..please don't test me.

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Pricing is different, it can change the day before hand, hardware cannot change over night.

Don't be too sure about that, if I could find out the specs of the XBO before e3 imagine what corps like Sony can find out about competitors.

Infact I would say in business, know what your competitors are up to is rule number 1.

When asked the question however, do you think any of them would admit knowing what they shouldn't, nope not when ya jobs on the line.

Yep, agreed.

When the ps4 is advertised on TV on release don't be surprised if they chuck some of the non gaming features down non gamers faces though.

All Sony have done better is to communicate to the correct demographic, for some reason MS wanted to tell a shed load of gamers about TV. 'twas a bad mistake

I totally agree, both machines mem wise will have more than enough ram to push out some spectacular stuff.

But can Sony boys just sit back and realise now that they are purchasing a multimedia device not just a gaming machine.

I use my PC for gaming with Skype and all sorts running, it don't take that much.

Why reserve 3.5 gb for a gaming focused machine.?

I think the issue for me at least is this. We have had to sit and listen to peeps for months now going on about how the XBO is a media box and how ps4 will have 7gb of usable ram for games.

There has been talk of MS not catering for core gamers and all sort of shit that spills out.

Now we have this super duper gaming machine created by gamers for gamers etc that for some reason now reserves 3.5gb. People wanted a pure gaming machine, I dare say Sony does not want to create a pure gaming machine or they would not allocate this chunk.

Basically Sony have realised that a gaming machine with multiple uses will sell more than a pure gaming machine.

You could say, they are following MS lead.

I dunno, it's a waste of fast memory if you ask me. I don't know many desktops or gaming pcs that use gddr5 for there main Ram.

Just seems like awfully good memory to waste on a simple OS and bloatware.