lol im fed up with this argument.

yes the 360 is easier to develop for but the whole saying "but teh sony had the extra time so should be better" is complete lies.

UK dev's received their final dev kits from sony early quarter 1 - early quarter 2. They have had 10 months with the final dev kits so there's no way they going to be used to developing on PS3 when compared to the 360. 360 final dev kits have probably been out a year before PS3's final kits were even delivered to Dev's.

And if this article is true

http://ps3.qj.net/Havok-4-5-Enjoy-ALL-your-SPUs-in-FULL-PS3/pg/49/aid/80351

then the cell is going to be a beast and it looks like the whole hard to develop for process, the main programming problem being with the SPE's just got a whole lot easier.

Yes its a nice bonus for devolopers to have an easier game creating interface but it doesn't really mean too much. PS3 still has as much developers on board with them as the 360. PS2 was a lot harder to program for than the PS3 so please, enough with this argument lemmings, its one of the weaker ones you have in which to claim "Ownage" as you call it on the cows.

that the ps3 has a good exclusives list coming out.

lemmings seem to hate that

also the whole "WHO HAS BETTER LINE UP"

[QUOTE="Tails10"][QUOTE="Phantom_J"][QUOTE="Tails10"][QUOTE="Phantom_J"][QUOTE="Tails10"]

lemmings who argued at the fact about Ninja gaiden sigma being a crappy port of x box game showed how sucky PS3 was.

Karma is such a great thing :)

Phantom_J

Ninja gaiden sigma was huge game on x box, being ported to PS3 and lemmings laughed at fact that they were getting a touched up ninja gaiden sigma, claimed it as ownage and PS3 sucking.

Pro Evo soccer, huge franchise on PS2, being ported to x box 360.

How would a cow be wrong if he suddenly says, "360 sucks its getting a slightly touched up ps2 port" when lemmings did the same thing with ninja gaiden.

its hypocrisy like that which ruins this forum. Along with the fact that logic, smarts and brains are forbidden here

yea i get bored at times, so then i join the fanboy bandwagon for teh funny responses

this one was actually serious, to prove a point of the hypocrisy of some lemmings on here though

lol i made this exact same point an hour ago lol

[QUOTE="Tails10"][QUOTE="Phantom_J"][QUOTE="Tails10"]

lemmings who argued at the fact about Ninja gaiden sigma being a crappy port of x box game showed how sucky PS3 was.

Karma is such a great thing :)

Phantom_J

Ninja gaiden sigma was huge game on x box, being ported to PS3 and lemmings laughed at fact that they were getting a touched up ninja gaiden sigma, claimed it as ownage and PS3 sucking.

Pro Evo soccer, huge franchise on PS2, being ported to x box 360.

How would a cow be wrong if he suddenly says, "360 sucks its getting a slightly touched up ps2 port" when lemmings did the same thing with ninja gaiden.

its hypocrisy like that which ruins this forum. Along with the fact that logic, smarts and brains are forbidden here

yea i get bored at times, so then i join the fanboy bandwagon for teh funny responses

PS3 - "I get knocked down, but i get up again" - no idea who did this, think it was blur but meh!

[QUOTE="Tails10"]

http://ps3.qj.net/Havok-4-5-Enjoy-ALL-your-SPUs-in-FULL-PS3/pg/49/aid/80351

"Havok 4.0 on a PS3 Cell ran comparable to a triple-core PC. Now, if Havok's PR is to be believed, multiply that by 5 to 10."

if true, kinda puts quad cores to shame

Only_the_Truth

Well first of all, Havok 4.5 is supposed to improve performance on all multicore architectures, not just Cell so the difference wouldn't be 5-10 times which is no doubt a huge exageration in the first place.  Second we have no idea what "triple-core" CPU they were using since no such CPU exists.  They may have merely been extrapolating performance from a dual core P4 ruuning at slow speeds.

My second point is that even if Cells architecture does lend itself particularly well to physics, that doesn't mean its well suitaed to other CPU tasks.  certainly it gets creamed by even one core of the Quad for anything that relies on more general purpose performance.  So AI, scripting and overall game control will suffer in comparison.

And my final point is that there are other devices in a PC which can handle physics to an even greater extend than a quad core CPU.  Namely the PPU and a DX10 GPU.

Anyway, until I see some real world examples of Cell vs Core2 Quad in Havok 4.5 then im taking this with a pinch of salt.

fair dues, hence why i put "IF TRUE"

its kind of a protection from ownage and just a link giving info :)

[QUOTE="Tails10"]

lemmings who argued at the fact about Ninja gaiden sigma being a crappy port of x box game showed how sucky PS3 was.

Karma is such a great thing :)

Phantom_J

Ninja gaiden sigma was huge game on x box, being ported to PS3 and lemmings laughed at fact that they were getting a touched up ninja gaiden sigma, claimed it as ownage and PS3 sucking.

Pro Evo soccer, huge franchise on PS2, being ported to x box 360.

How would a cow be wrong if he suddenly says, "360 sucks its getting a slightly touched up ps2 port" when lemmings did the same thing with ninja gaiden.

its hypocrisy like that which ruins this forum. Along with the fact that logic, smarts and brains are forbidden here