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[QUOTE="SonyMarksman70"]Okay, did Mccain ever say he is following the WOMD mission anyways ?No, no he didn't, he want us to stay there until the Iraqi government can take care of the terror and rebel activity,yes or no? read it. Obama is committed to ending the NAFTA, where's the money rollin?Hmmm health care, closing NAFTA, ending war, no more oil, closing NAFTA, no more Canadian oil either. Welfare?Where's the money at Obama?SonyMarksman70

The money is being spent in Iraq right now.

See how well that works out?

Intelligence Estimate, al Qaeda has successfully made the tribal areas of northwestern

Pakistan a base to launch attacks into Afghanistan and beyond. As president, Barack

Obama would condition U.S. military aid to Pakistan on their making progress to

close down the training camps, evict foreign fighters, and prevent the Taliban from

using Pakistan as a base to strike inside of Afghanistan. In addition, if the United

States has actionable intelligence about high value terrorist targets and Pakistani

President Pervez Musharraf will not act on it, an Obama Administration will. Obama

also will increase aid to Pakistan for development and secular education to counter

extremists."

From his counter-terrorism plan. He merely has the option on the table, he doesn't say that it will definitely happen. In any case, it would certainly be a better place to look for bin Laden than Iraq.

Anyway, wasn't McCain the one chanting: "Bomb bomb bomb, bomb bomb Iran" ?

Okay, did Mccain ever say he is following the WOMD mission anyways ?No, no he didn't, he want us to stay there until the Iraqi government can take care of the terror and rebel activity,yes or no? read it. Obama is committed to ending the NAFTA, where's the money rollin?Hmmm health care, closing NAFTA, ending war, no more oil, closing NAFTA, no more Canadian oil either. Welfare?Where's the money at Obama?SonyMarksman70

If this is the post you are referring to where you answered the WMD point, it really doesn't make much sense. Could you write down what you are trying to say here?

If your point was that McCain didn't try to find WMDs in Iraq, that's true enough, but I had brought it up as another failed Bush policy which we would like to change away from.

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[QUOTE="SonyMarksman70"]To ThaSod, I hope you realise everyone takes you as a joke now, everyone, as in Republicans, that you for embarrassing yourself by not stating anything valid. Please try again later.C_BozkurT_C

Not saying anything valid? Let's see...

1. Budget deficits and crushing public debt: true

2. Found weapons of Mass Destruction in Iraq: false

3. Claims of being welcomed as liberators and being home by Christmas: very false

Sorry, but it sure looks like a case of the pot calling the kettle black here.

Heh yeah, I know, but I'm actually having fun watching him sputter.

Okay, did Mccain ever say he is following the WOMD mission anyways ?No, no he didn't, he want us to stay there until the Iraqi government can take care of the terror and rebel activity,yes or no? read it. Obama is committed to ending the NAFTA, where's the money rollin?Hmmm health care, closing NAFTA, ending war, no more oil, closing NAFTA, no more Canadian oil either. Welfare?Where's the money at Obama?SonyMarksman70

The money is being spent in Iraq right now.

See how well that works out?

[QUOTE="ThaSod"]

[QUOTE="SonyMarksman70"]To ThaSod, I hope you realise everyone takes you as a joke now, everyone, as in Republicans, that you for embarrassing yourself by not stating anything valid. Please try again later.SonyMarksman70

Not saying anything valid? Let's see...

1. Budget deficits and crushing public debt: true

2. Found weapons of Mass Destruction in Iraq: false

3. Claims of being welcomed as liberators and being home by Christmas: very false

Sorry, but it sure looks like a case of the pot calling the kettle black here.

After my post where I told you that any change from the failed policies of Bush was a good idea (and then I enumerated those policies) you told me I was a joke and hadn't said anything valid. I then defended my previous post with facts proving my points were valid. I also included an idiom 'the pot calling the kettle black' which is commonly used in English. Perhaps you would have understood it if I had instead said:

I am rubber and you are glue- it bounces off me and sticks to you.

Now do you understand?

Fine you say you want a change for which reasons?Think for yourself until you realise Barack Obama isnt the change that people with your views should have. Tell me wat chznges Obama promises and how he intends to keep those promises reasonable with limits of not being God, or say whoever you believe in? SonyMarksman70

Changing from Bush to Obama will be like:

1. Changing from maxing your credit cards to saving respnsibly

2. Changing from a massive gas guzzling H2 to an economical Civic

3. Changing from a bully who goads the world into doing what he says to a kindly uncle who is willing to listen and ask

4. Changing from a leader who uses fear (of terrorism) to stay in power to a leader who uses hope for the future.

To ThaSod, I hope you realise everyone takes you as a joke now, everyone, as in Republicans, that you for embarrassing yourself by not stating anything valid. Please try again later.SonyMarksman70

Not saying anything valid? Let's see...

1. Budget deficits and crushing public debt: true

2. Found weapons of Mass Destruction in Iraq: false

3. Claims of being welcomed as liberators and being home by Christmas: very false

Sorry, but it sure looks like a case of the pot calling the kettle black here.

There is a huge amount of misunderstanding when it comes to all these government budgets,the war in Iraq and this idiotic misunderstanding of us "occupying" Iraq, and so called invading them for no "apperant" reason,and Bush has explained it enough, but everyone seems to be so hyped up for "change"please tell me, what change is that? The change we cannot afford!SonyMarksman70

Your statements would probably be more convincing with better grammar and spelling.

I'm not sure what the public misunderstands. Bush has broken all his budgets massively, the whole reason to enter the war in Iraq was a lie, and the occupation was terribly mishandled. Do you wonder why people want change?

[QUOTE="SquirtoMaximo"]MCain is in an overpriced doctors office seeking medical advice.SonyMarksman70

Hooo boy. Is this the magnificent thread you'd been going on about that defines you?

[QUOTE="GabuEx"]Where did you hear that Obama opposes nuclear power? He supports exploring it.bungie93

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32eHlQKAN8A&feature=related

Are you sure that is the same Barack Obama?

In this video he says "I am not a nuclear energy proponent."

Here is a link to Obama's energy plan. He realized we need nuclear power in order to have an energy independent future. His main goals are to ensure its safety.

http://www.barackobama.com/issues/pdf/EnergyFactSheet.pdf