Hmm, hermits is getting pretty extreme pretending A game is better than AAA games.

mysterj

Not just ANY AAA game, but the 6th highest rated game of all time :lol:

Brb, Minority Report, Way of the Samurai, and Harry potter order of the phoenix are all >>> Super Mario Galaxy 2 :lol:

Ouch, hurts doesn't it. And I find it funny that you worship Uncharted 2, seeing as it copied pretty much it's entire gameplay mechanics from Gears Of War. :lol:

Nyuuuu

And then you go to Gamerankings, and learn the REAL AAA list ;). As well as the fact that Starcraft 2 was the first AAA exclusive the system has had since 2008 :lol:. Even more importantly, wanna know how many TOTAL AAA games the PC got since 2008 (multiplats included)? Seven.

, but you'll simply ignore that and scream "only gamespot counts" even though we all know the real number.

As far as your Uncharted 2 comment, what exactly did Gears of War even invent for Uncharted to "steal"? Im interested. That and the fact that Uncharted 2's gameplay is superior to Gears of War in every possible way.

[QUOTE="TheMISCMan48"]

[QUOTE="Silenthps"]:lol: @ metacritic

Silenthps

Ill ignore the arguement of whether or not Gamerankings/Metacritic matter or not, and play along with you.

http://www.gamespot.com/pc/action/shatteredhorizon/index.html?tag=result%3Btitle%3B0

Congratulations, Shattered horison is a 7.5 instead of a 7.2 (72%) :roll:

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[QUOTE="Nyuuuu"]

I'm done. :P You're obviously trolling.

Nyuuuu

You honeslty think Shogun 2 is pushing higher quality assets then UC2 :|

Keep in mind I did say shogun 2 is technically more impressive due to the shier amount of whats goin on but if you think Shogun 2 looks better (EX) character models are more detaild enviromental textures are better then you have got to be kididng yourself.

PS. Have you even played UC2?

My god, stfu about assets. It's a game running on 5 yearold hardware being rendered at 720p, ffs. Shogun 2 DESTROYS Uncharted 2. The end. :|

[QUOTE="TheMISCMan48"]

[QUOTE="Silenthps"]:lol: @ metacritic

Nyuuuu

Um, tens of thousands daily. I doubt Shattered horizon has even SOLD as many copies as Uncharted 2 has daily players :lol:

Buh-buh-buh teh PC games have higher standards! Although I'm gonna call out Lemmings and Cows here: there also isn't a 360 or PS3 exclusive that scored higher than Super Mario Galaxy or Super Mario Galaxy 2 on Gamerankings or Metacritic. Actually, on Gamerankings, no game this whole gen on any other system has scored higher than either SMG 1 or 2, they're the #2 and 3 rated games ever. So if you're gonna use the "UC2 has a higher Gamerankings score than any PC exclusive" deal you're gonna have to fess up on the Wii having the highest rated.

oldkingallant

I mean, at least the games cows hype are AAA. Wenever hermits cry about graphics, they always post some random pic of crysis (modded to hell and back). Its usually not even a game or a level, just a pic of a crysis mod, with 1000 cars stacked ontop of eachother or something. Or some random level where all there is to do is walk around and stare at leaves and trees, with a framerate of 4fps.

Then they post screenshots of games that have the absolute most abysmal art direction you have ever seen (and sometimes even arent that impressive technically). Usually it is of some off hand title that the average person would have never heard of in their life, and when you go to gamerankings it is usually in the 50s-70s. maybe 80s.

No hermits, I dont care that your modded version of Rome total war has thousands of enemies onscreen (a mod that you will try for absolutely no reason, just to test out your graphics card, and get bored of after 20 minutes, and never touch it again)

Or that Arma 2 has some nice looking cloths, textures etc. It doesnt stop it from being ugly as hell, and being rated 77 @ gamerankings.

Or that Shattered Horison has superior textures, it is still an irrelevant game that noone cares about (I bet you couldnt even describe the gameplay of the game to me without first going and watching a trailer of it).

or that stalker has the best lighting in the world that looks so good it can cure cancer. Doesnt stop it from looking absolutely terrible next to Uncharted 2 (both artistically and gameplay wise), and the other PS3 exclusives cows have.

Woopdeedoo, you have a Crysis mod with 400 Humvees stacked on top of eachother just to see how many you could do. :roll: Or 1000 character models on screen standing shoulder to shoulder just for the hell of it. They are good for a tech demo, but what do you have after that?

[QUOTE="TheMISCMan48"]

[QUOTE="NVIDIATI"] First there isn't anything wrong with using new PC games, and second if you want something else here is Shattered Horizon from 2009.

Silenthps

I always lol @ hermits claiming "ownage" using some irrelevant obscure title that noones ever heard of(usually in the 50-70s @ Gamerankings/MetaCritic) or some random crysis mod that has absolutely nothing to do but walk around in an empty map and stare at leaves (in about 4fps at that) :roll:

[QUOTE="mrmusicman247"]I love how people are comparing Uncharted 2's graphics with games coming out this year and 2011. Its so fair. NVIDIATI

I always lol @ hermits claiming "ownage" using some irrelevant obscure title that noones ever heard of(usually in the 50-70s @ Gamerankings/MetaCritic) or some random crysis mod that has absolutely nothing to do but walk around in an empty map and stare at leaves (in about 4fps at that) :roll:

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[QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

If that's what he meant, my response would be:

You mean lets hope it doesn't pull a MGS4 on release, am I right? :P

roflcopter317

[QUOTE="TheMISCMan48"]

[QUOTE="LucidJubilation"]

what was the point of this...he's played Geow3. he has a ps3 sig even...why are you acting like he can't have his own opinion?besides, its already been proven you don't know what the hell you're talking about lol.

LucidJubilation

And lol I didnt even have to say anything, the screenshots speak for themselves ;) Not exactly sure how you can "prove" screenshots wrong :?

i was talking about how Bus-a-Bus schooled u like a child about polys. maybe u should read the whole thread like i did...because i still havent seen u respond to the ownage you were handed.

I didnt have the time nor the care to get into a technical debate. Lol, I know everything there is to know about all 3 games and their engines technically (without actually being a programmer for them myself).

*sigh* The whole idea behind Killzone's engine (and U2 and GOW3) is to move all tasks normally performed by the graphics card over to the Cell proccessor's SPUs, such as drawing polygons.

Killzone, for instance has all of its polygons drawn by the spu's of the Cell, as well as texture streaming, while the deffered rendering and most post processing effects are done entirely on the RSX. Killzone 2 streamed all of the data for an entire level at once. See, I can throw around words like "deffered rendering" to make it look like I "owned" you too ;) (and I am positive I know more about them than you). As far as the texture resolution, that has to do with the texture streaming system and its optimization.

Killzone 2's texture streaming system worked by streaming the assets of the game (models, textures, sounds, animations, etc) all at once. This ended up with levels of KZ2 having loading points midway though the level that acted like "when you get into this hallway, load the next third of the level".

Killzone 3's streaming system, however is different. They have drastically decreased latency by splitting everything up individually. Sounds, animations, textures, etc. will be loaded whenever the spu's get free time. Like, for instance, there is nothing going on and there is no sound being made, the spu's will take that opportunity to start streaming the sound, or textures whenever its relevant etc instead of just loading one chunk of a level at a time. Spreading this work across all of the SPUs at once reduces latency as well, and depending on how much they optimize it they can free up more bandwidth to stream even better textures (which will undoubtedly happen, because this game is still in PRE-ALPHA). Based on your post, it has been proven that YOU have no idea what you are talking about.

That "ownage" enough for ya?

Thats as far as I will go into that debate, dont feel like wasting an hour. Besides all of that, you can clearly see that Killzone 3 has much higher res textures and more polygons just by looking at the videos of them lol.